2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

TheOak · 01-12-2021, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The issue would be getting the league to approve. Contracts dealing with cap avoidance have been shot down recently. I know of two sign and trade type deals that were denied for those reasons in the past year or so.

Looking a little further I am not sure guarantees can even be converted to NLTBE as it is an incentive rather than a bonus.

"NFL contracts can have incentives that can give the player money if the player hits certain thresholds set in the contract. There are two types of incentives: Likely to be earned (LTBE) and Not likely to be earned (NLTBE). Incentives are classified as LTBE or NLTBE based on what the player did in the previous season in relation to the incentive. If a player would have earned the incentive in the previous year, the incentive is considered LTBE and the opposite is true for NLTBE. LTBE incentives count against the current year’s cap space for the team while NLTBE incentives are charged against the following year’s cap space. Some examples of incentives would be making the Pro Bowl, catching a certain amount of receptions, or based on playing time."

According to this it appears that even if allowed somehow the amount would still hit the cap the following year with NLTBE.

Read a little more than you quote and you'll see that LTBE that are charged against the cap but not earned are credited to the following years cap, and NLTBE that are not earned are not charged to any cap.

Guido an incentive is a bonus, not sure how you differentiate between the two words other than spelling.. and if you read what I wrote as long as the guaranteed portion is satisfied against the cap.

This is not a trade, you are ignoring context and context matters.

I am trying to figure out a valid point of your reply, it doesn't seem you paid attention to what I wrote or whats available on the internet about the cap. Just wanted to post words?

01-12-2021, 11:06 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The issue would be getting the league to approve. Contracts dealing with cap avoidance have been shot down recently. I know of two sign and trade type deals that were denied for those reasons in the past year or so. Looking a little further I am not sure guarantees can even be converted to NLTBE as it is an incentive rather than a bonus. "NFL contracts can have incentives that can give the player money if the player hits certain thresholds set in the contract. There are two types of incentives: Likely to be earned (LTBE) and Not likely to be earned (NLTBE). Incentives are classified as LTBE or NLTBE based on what the player did in the previous season in relation to the incentive. If a player would have earned the incentive in the previous year, the incentive is considered LTBE and the opposite is true for NLTBE. LTBE incentives count against the current year’s cap space for the team while NLTBE incentives are charged against the following year’s cap space. Some examples of incentives would be making the Pro Bowl, catching a certain amount of receptions, or based on playing time." According to this it appears that even if allowed somehow the amount would still hit the cap the following year with NLTBE. Read a little more than you quote and you'll see that LTBE that are charged against the cap but not earned are credited to the following years cap, and NLTBE that are not earned are not charged to any cap. Guido an incentive is a bonus, not sure how you differentiate between the two words other than spelling.. and if you read what I wrote as long as the guaranteed portion is satisfied against the cap. This is not a trade, you are ignoring context and context matters. I am trying to figure out a valid point of your reply, it doesn't seem you paid attention to what I wrote or whats available on the internet about the cap. Just wanted to post words?
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