2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

saintsfan1976 · 07-29-2021, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We literally have the same DBs as last year with the exception of Paulson Adebo for Janoris Jenkins; and now have an abundance of NBs with Poole...

Callaway hasn't shown he can stay healthy; Tre'Quan is in the last year of his rookie contract, and still looks like a rookie; Deonte is special, but limited by his height...

Until we see what Baker is all about, have no confidence in this WR group as it is; Trautman was an unnecessarily expensive, but solid pick and should do well...

IF there's any truth to bringing back Brandin Cooks, who's on an affordable contract and knows he's an elite WRz, not a WRx (as Harris isn't), Sean needs to get it done...

Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST"

Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play.

Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)

Rugby Saint II · 07-29-2021, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST"

Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play.

Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)

If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up.

AsylumGuido · 07-29-2021, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up.

They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player.

halloween 65 · 07-29-2021, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player.

Not saying your opinion is wrong but on the flip side with all of those picks given up for a single player we could have hit on possibly all of them, their are plenty of players drafted around those times not including undrafted that have had solid to great careers in the league. I think alot of that is laziness on the scouting department and coaches. From Pierre Thomas to Tom Brady.

AsylumGuido · 07-29-2021, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Not saying your opinion is wrong but on the flip side with all of those picks given up for a single player we could have hit on possibly all of them, their are plenty of players drafted around those times not including undrafted that have had solid to great careers in the league. I think alot of that is laziness on the scouting department and coaches. From Pierre Thomas to Tom Brady.

Around 35% of drafted players ever start half the games in their careers. Very few of those come from the last few rounds. They do happen, but are very rare.

It doesn't come from laziness, at least not from those picking the talent. Those picked late are picked late for a reason.

jeanpierre · 07-29-2021, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST"

Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play.

Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)

I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo...

Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons...

I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside...

saintsfan1976 · 07-29-2021, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo...

Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons...

I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside...

I'm all for optimism - you should know, you've hip-checked my outlook back to reality a time or two - but we need a day 1 starter at #2 (not accounting for Lattimore susp.) and we're relying on a rookie who didn't play last year and a 33 year old mid-tier talent??

If we were willing to jump into the Top 10 for Surtain, we're still searching today.

AsylumGuido · 07-29-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo...

Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons...

I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside...

I am more than willing for another Saints addition to my tattoos. I'd rather them be more visible, however.

iceshack149 · 07-30-2021, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am more than willing for another Saints addition to my tattoos. I'd rather them be more visible, however.

As much as you show your ass around here that tattoo would indeed be the most visible.

edit:

show your ass - Urban Dictionary

https://www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=show...

saintsfan1976 · 07-30-2021, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

As much as you show your ass around here that tattoo would indeed be the most visible.

I don't think that's fair to say. Guido is opinionated and while we don't always agree, I appreciate the differing viewpoints. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so either.

07-29-2021, 04:55 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre We literally have the same DBs as last year with the exception of Paulson Adebo for Janoris Jenkins; and now have an abundance of NBs with Poole... Callaway hasn't shown he can stay healthy; Tre'Quan is in the last year of his rookie contract, and still looks like a rookie; Deonte is special, but limited by his height... Until we see what Baker is all about, have no confidence in this WR group as it is; Trautman was an unnecessarily expensive, but solid pick and should do well... IF there's any truth to bringing back Brandin Cooks, who's on an affordable contract and knows he's an elite WRz, not a WRx (as Harris isn't), Sean needs to get it done... Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST" Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play. Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)

07-29-2021, 11:31 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up. They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player.

07-29-2021, 12:58 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player. Not saying your opinion is wrong but on the flip side with all of those picks given up for a single player we could have hit on possibly all of them, their are plenty of players drafted around those times not including undrafted that have had solid to great careers in the league. I think alot of that is laziness on the scouting department and coaches. From Pierre Thomas to Tom Brady.

07-29-2021, 07:53 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by halloween 65 Not saying your opinion is wrong but on the flip side with all of those picks given up for a single player we could have hit on possibly all of them, their are plenty of players drafted around those times not including undrafted that have had solid to great careers in the league. I think alot of that is laziness on the scouting department and coaches. From Pierre Thomas to Tom Brady. Around 35% of drafted players ever start half the games in their careers. Very few of those come from the last few rounds. They do happen, but are very rare. It doesn't come from laziness, at least not from those picking the talent. Those picked late are picked late for a reason.

07-29-2021, 01:47 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST" Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play. Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?) I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo... Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons... I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside...

07-29-2021, 11:17 AM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST" Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play. Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?) If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up.

07-29-2021, 07:48 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo... Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons... I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside... I'm all for optimism - you should know, you've hip-checked my outlook back to reality a time or two - but we need a day 1 starter at #2 (not accounting for Lattimore susp.) and we're relying on a rookie who didn't play last year and a 33 year old mid-tier talent?? If we were willing to jump into the Top 10 for Surtain, we're still searching today.

07-29-2021, 07:57 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'll buy the beer if I'm wrong (I'm partial to Yuengling Lager), but I believe you're gonna be really happy with Adebo... Now Jenkins missed three games last year, and in no way am I saying PJ or PRob is just as good as Jackrabbit, they peformed well and the secondary wasn't the liability it was in previous seasons... I am as optimistic about this secondary as AG getting a tatoo of Sean Payton on his backside... I am more than willing for another Saints addition to my tattoos. I'd rather them be more visible, however.

07-30-2021, 10:23 AM	#9
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am more than willing for another Saints addition to my tattoos. I'd rather them be more visible, however. As much as you show your ass around here that tattoo would indeed be the most visible. edit: show your ass - Urban Dictionary https://www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=show...

07-30-2021, 10:34 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by iceshack149 As much as you show your ass around here that tattoo would indeed be the most visible. I don't think that's fair to say. Guido is opinionated and while we don't always agree, I appreciate the differing viewpoints. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so either.

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