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Old 07-18-2012, 11:39 AM   #1
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NCAA may be toothless in Penn State scandal

...However, the NCAA might be limited in its power to impose a “death penalty” on Penn State’s football program. Such as act would shut down Penn State football for one or two years, and it would curtail its ability to offer scholarships.

Because Penn State doesn’t have a history of punishments for past NCAA violations, the death penalty is problematic for NCAA officials...
But the real power to shut down the Penn State football most likely lies in Washington, D.C., as part of a separate Department of Education investigation into Penn State.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan could cut all federal financial aid to Penn State as part of a Title IX amendment called the Clery Act.

It would be a crippling blow to the school, and such a threat could put Penn State in a position to take action against its own football program as a preventative measure.

Title IX could lead to Penn State death penalty - Yahoo! News
That's a shame, really.

If Washington, DC can take action against Penn State, after a university official was CONVICTED OF 12 counts of aggravated rape of a minor sanctioned by the administration on campus, but the NCAA can do zippo, then I say the NCAA needs to be investigated for its cowardice and ineptitude. If the NCAA is incapable of acting in this situation, it needs to be dissolved and replaced immediately.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #2
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Like many SEC fans, I've wondered why the major conferences didn't abandon the NCAA years ago.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #3
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Like many SEC fans, I've wondered why the major conferences didn't abandon the NCAA years ago.
If they can't handle this, they're completely worthless.
I mean, come on, this isn't an "ongoing investigation."
The man was convicted of 12 counts of aggravated rape of a minor by a jury of his peers. He's not innocent.
Therefore the NCAA can take action ANY TIME IT WANTS TO. Sounds like the NCAA can't protect the rights and safety of students, or anyone for that matter. They are irrelevant.
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Similar to Roger Goodell, the NCAA exists chiefly to dole out wildly inconsistent punishments for vaguely-defined "infractions," often with little-or-no evidence.

Sandusky committed a heinous crime, and was rightfully (finally) convicted ... the clowns running the NCAA apparently don't know what to do with that!
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:42 PM   #5
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Until recently, I was unaware that the NCAA was proposed by Theodore Roosevelt when public outcry called for abolishing college football as "too violent," which in the early 1900's it probably was!

It's a long read, but here's the NCAA's website version of the story, if you're interested:

History - NCAA.org
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by mutineer10 View Post
Until recently, I was unaware that the NCAA was proposed by Theodore Roosevelt when public outcry called for abolishing college football as "too violent," which in the early 1900's it probably was!

It's a long read, but here's the NCAA's website version of the story, if you're interested:

History - NCAA.org
OMG! Don't give Goodell any ideas!
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:53 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by mutineer10 View Post
Similar to Roger Goodell, the NCAA exists chiefly to dole out wildly inconsistent punishments for vaguely-defined "infractions," often with little-or-no evidence.

Sandusky committed a heinous crime, and was rightfully (finally) convicted ... the clowns running the NCAA apparently don't know what to do with that!
I find the NCAA really doesn't do anything at all besides screwing with the eligibility of players who try to leave schools they don't fit-it. If a school self-sanctions itself, the NCAA pretty much gives a rubber stamp.

As far as leagues, playoffs, tournaments, games... those are all organized mostly by the respective leagues and/or committees like bowl committees or BCS.

You ask yourself WTF do they do???
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:21 PM   #8
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That's a shame, really.

If Washington, DC can take action against Penn State, after a university official was CONVICTED OF 12 counts of aggravated rape of a minor sanctioned by the administration on campus, but the NCAA can do zippo, then I say the NCAA needs to be investigated for its cowardice and ineptitude. If the NCAA is incapable of acting in this situation, it needs to be dissolved and replaced immediately.
I'm not fond of DC stepping in. They already have too much power.

This should be handled by law enforcement, the NCAA, and the court system.

I despise Washington politicians getting involved in anything like this. They're rarely interested in anything except expanding their power and control over every aspect of our lives.
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I find the NCAA really doesn't do anything at all besides screwing with the eligibility of players who try to leave schools they don't fit-it. If a school self-sanctions itself, the NCAA pretty much gives a rubber stamp.
I've always thought it rather hypocritical that highly-paid college coaches can move from school-to-school basically anytime a better offer is on the table, yet the players - who ultimately bring in millions of dollars - must sit a year, or transfer to a lower division.
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I've always thought it rather hypocritical that highly-paid college coaches can move from school-to-school basically anytime a better offer is on the table, yet the players - who ultimately bring in millions of dollars - must sit a year, or transfer to a lower division.
whole structure is insanely lopsided against players
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