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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Fatius, please try to compare like talented players in this arguement. I'll give you that Cutler will be a first rounder and possibly even a top three. BUT don't use names like Toretta, Walsh, and Dorsey to compare QBs from ...

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Old 02-28-2006, 03:07 PM   #71
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Fatius, please try to compare like talented players in this arguement. I'll give you that Cutler will be a first rounder and possibly even a top three. BUT don't use names like Toretta, Walsh, and Dorsey to compare QBs from good teams doing poorly in the NFL. None of those QBs was even picked prior to the 7th round!

Toretta and Dorsey were both picked in the 7th, and Walsh wasn't even picked in the standard draft. He was the first player picked in 1989's Supplimental Draft (to back up Troy Aikman in Dallas). Now I know they came from good college squads, but even NFL scouts recognised that it wasn't them.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:13 PM   #72
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I hear you loud and clear BJ. My point is that there are peple here who feel that Leinart will do well in the NFL because of his collegiate success. I am saying that I don't buy it. Ok....lol how about Shuler? ;0)
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:15 PM   #73
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Ghandi...I understand you completely. But..my opinion is that I simply feel that even though Leinart has proven that he can...there is something special about a guy who can take a lousy program and make it respectable.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:16 PM   #74
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Just to update my last post, Vandy gave up four sacks against Georgia the very next game after LSU. I'm going to keep going. I have no idea why, but I am.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:22 PM   #75
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I like the avatar wheelman...very memorable...;0)
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:33 PM   #76
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Fatius, you can make an arguement either way... good players coming in and doing poorly (Shuler, Akili Smith, etc), or good players excelling (Manning(s), McNabb, etc). But no matter what you pick the best player on the board. And by almost all scouts thats Matt Lienart.

If he's gone I'm not oppossed to taking Cutler, but no way if Leinart's still on the board do I take Cutler.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:40 PM   #77
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You say tomato...I say tomato (its hard to sing that song when you type it eh?)

Im out for now....I'll try to check in tonite but for the most part....I'll see you guys tomorrow. Another great day of bickering and arguing for one common cause...the good of the Saints. You guys have a good night.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:41 PM   #78
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like the avatar wheelman...very memorable...;0)
Thanks jeeebs.

Stupid Sportsline and ESPN, neither show the defensive stats for the South Carolina game.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:11 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs
BnB... its not an issue of talent at hand vs. no talent at hand Its an issue of maximizing the talent you don't have. THAT....takes talent. Cutler has proven he has it.
That's great. If you want to base your opinions off this, that is your perogative. I prefer to judge the individual performances by what I see on the field, and come to a conclusion from there.

Been doing this for 5 years now, and my picks are pretty dead on- ask any of the regulars here.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:17 PM   #80
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I give up. I swear looking up some statistics on the Internet is a pain in the ***. Anyway, it's safe to say that Vanderbilt's line was not very good over the past two years. That being said, I did notice something a little disturbing about Cutler's statistics. He doesn't turn the ball over much, but opposing teams seemed to be able to score points off of them. However, after I saw Vanderbilt's defensive stats, I realized why. However, again, those turnovers did seem to happen at inopportune times.
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