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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Lets go back a few years. Roughly 2000 Saints play a last place schedule, a rookie Head Coach and win first ever playoff game, the Head Coach was Coach of the year and the QB was a Probowl alternate. Following ...

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Old 09-28-2007, 01:23 PM   #1
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Lets go back a few years. Roughly 2000 Saints play a last place schedule, a rookie Head Coach and win first ever playoff game, the Head Coach was Coach of the year and the QB was a Probowl alternate. Following year 2001 about a quarter into the season there was a total collapse by the entire team couldn't block anybody couldn't stop anybody, couldn't run are catch the football. Said QB is blamed for everything, every loss 24/7 365 days everyday.


Fast foward to 2006; New Coach, last place schedule win 2nd ever playoff game. Coach is named Coach of the year QB goes to the Probowl. Following year there is a total collapse by the team, can't stop anybody, can't block, can't catch are run. The QB of this team now gets almost no criticism not blamed at all. Same QB has recently thrown to a Offensive lineman during Colts game, was seen laughing it up in Tampa with the tampa players on the field immediately after the Blowout loss. Where is the 24/7 365 days a week call for this guys head as was with the previous QB? THIS GUY HAS ALMOST 1,000.00 TURNOVERS ALREADY THROWING THEM ON OUR SIDE OF THE FIELD AT the wrong times of games!
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:41 PM   #2
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People are finally realizing its not the QB but the O-line. You can blame the coaches though for not addressing the lines more immediately.

There were some who defended Brooks play even and called out the O line back then... hmmm what was one of there names... I think it started with an E or EU something or another.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM   #3
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Aaron Brooks! You aught to be ashamed of yourself. We had to let you go, man. Drew is loved more than you ever were. Sorry dude, you can't turn us against Drew.

Why would anyone defend AB? Never mind. This thread will get closed if we start talking about AB.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:50 PM   #4
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That last I'd heard, Aaron Brooks got interviewed after getting the boot in Oakland - but he fumbled away the microphone before he could make any statements. Not that he knew how to make any statements anyway, other than

"duh... I'm a top five quarterback... duh... what's a wonderlic?... duh."

Trying to compare Brees to Brooks is simply ludicrous.

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Old 09-28-2007, 02:03 PM   #5
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Did he? I bet he flunked out.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:25 PM   #6
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Paging Euphoria..... Can we get a "final-final-final" take on this idiotic topic.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:54 PM   #7
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lol Brooks
Well first up I personally liked Brooks on some levels and didn't think he was the worst I had ever seen but he definitely had no zest and I agree with the rest of the guys to compare him and Brees well that's a bit off base

The only thing that was similar between the 2 was that once again the "O" lines are to blame

It comes down to this
If you can't stop a team or at the very least slow them down with your D (and the saints have non)
Then on the other side of the ball you can't block a guy that is trying to kill you QB then you are pretty much…
Pi..ing in the wind

I can say this much I personally feel that you don’t need a top of the line QB although it does help but still not 100% necessary if you have good blocking
hell Jo Blow can make a pass if he is given enough time to do so


the coaches MUST ADDRESS THESE LINE ISSUES


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Old 09-28-2007, 03:21 PM   #8
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I think the frustration is born from most people's willingness to blame Brooks for everything wrong with those Haz teams when it's pretty clear that wasn't accurate. We averaged 29 points a game a few years back with Brooks and still everything wrong with civilization got pinned on him.

Now we have a pro-bowl caliber QB who's probably thrown more crappy passes over a three game span than Brooks ever did and people are defending him. (See the tipped pass argument)

I, for one, have been pointing to the O-Line for several years now. It's as bad now as it was then, but it's no worse.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:24 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy View Post
Trying to compare Brees to Brooks is simply ludicrous.
Why? Please explain.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:13 PM   #10
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Brees, bless his dink-and-dunk heart, is just one piece of a very ugly puzzle. With this crew, even if we find where everyone fits best, the picture will still be ugly.
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