Same ol'

saintfan · 09-29-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Off topic, where have you been, saintfan? I appreciate your posts and have seen little of them for a while.

Thanks for the shout ice. I've been around. Got banned for taking it to a few moderators here and there, but I've been lurking everywhere. I've been extremely busy the last year and a half since the company I work for got bought out. Just been watching some of these arguments since we've been playing so poorly and can't...hold...it...back...no...mo!

leilung · 09-29-2007, 08:14 PM

"... and as usual, at one point it turned into a racial thing, because some black people cannot stand hearing any white people criticizing a brotha, because that's racist, ya know? White people should not even look funny at black people , because that's racist. If you are white, you are supposed to say only good things about back pleople, and forgive black people of any wrongdoing, because they are black."

WTF are we coming to here?

Apparently, there are folks here that have 'issues' that go FAR beyond disagreeing on parity of treatment of QB's. This, and some of the other things I've read on this thread is nothing but venom. Pure and simple. Perhaps the moderator needs to kill this thread before it really gets stuck on stupid.

Sadly, I come to these boards to commiserate with fellow B&G followers and discuss the game we all love. I don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing 'We Are the World', but thinly veiled bigotry on either side really has NO place here.

Excuse me while I try to figure out where this all went wrong...

Tobias-Reiper · 09-29-2007, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

"... and as usual, at one point it turned into a racial thing, because some black people cannot stand hearing any white people criticizing a brotha, because that's racist, ya know? White people should not even look funny at black people , because that's racist. If you are white, you are supposed to say only good things about back pleople, and forgive black people of any wrongdoing, because they are black."

WTF are we coming to here?

Apparently, there are folks here that have 'issues' that go FAR beyond disagreeing on parity of treatment of QB's. This, and some of the other things I've read on this thread is nothing but venom. Pure and simple. Perhaps the moderator needs to kill this thread before it really gets stuck on stupid.

Sadly, I come to these boards to commiserate with fellow B&G followers and discuss the game we all love. I don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing 'We Are the World', but thinly veiled bigotry on either side really has NO place here.

Excuse me while I try to figure out where this all went wrong...

..and apparently, these folks are Mexican, and see the race issue on a different light.

JOESAM2002 · 09-29-2007, 09:38 PM

What's going on? This is what's called an 0-3 start. You know where everyone turns into a head coach. Same as it was before and during the draft. I don't mind the differing opinions, after all opinions are like a_sholes, everybody's got one and they all usually stink. When the debate turns nasty or gets out of hand, i'll just lock the thread. So you guys play nice.

LordOfEntropy · 09-30-2007, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

and yes you were one of them...consistently redirected the issue to the QB.

Please check your history SF. I was one of the supporters of Brooks. You don't remember that, do you? I once posted he was sufficient to get us to the SB, if the rest of the team played well. And I was most definitely %100 wrong, humiliated I am that I ever said that. It was only later that I learned what a complete failure that man was.

So please, before you bash me in the future, make sure what you're saying is actually correct.

CheramieIII · 09-30-2007, 10:35 AM

It's everyone's fault but most importantly the coaching staff. After game one Payton had an idea his game plans from last year would not work, we all did and he should really know that last year leftovers are not going to work this year after getting raped by the Bucs and Titans on Monday night in September no less.

Coach change the game plan dramatically or the season is lost.

LordOfEntropy · 09-30-2007, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Got banned for taking it to a few moderators here and there, but I've been lurking everywhere.

Perhaps there is a reason. I've watched your posts throughout the years, and though you often have valid points to make, your tone can come across as hostile or insulting sometimes. When it isn't really necessary.

Regarldless, welcome back SF.

CheramieIII · 09-30-2007, 10:56 AM

We should all be used to this by now guys and gals. The same product the Saints have been putting out on the field for years and getting paid bigtime by the state and all of it's citizens. The organization has been screaming for years that they were going to move but we always come up with the money and it's odd that it's always enough to keep them in New Orleans for only 4 or 5 more years.

Wake up people, call Bensons bluff next time, We have nothing to lose but a losing team and maybe regain a little of our own dignities in the process.

saintfan · 09-30-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

Perhaps there is a reason. I've watched your posts throughout the years, and though you often have valid points to make, your tone can come across as hostile or insulting sometimes. When it isn't really necessary.

Regarldless, welcome back SF.

Oh there's a reason. But you wouldn't be aware, and forgive me for not toning it just the way you like it. Them's the breaks tho bro...it's a message board. I think you come across with dripping sarcasm in this thread. Maybe you should change too?

I guess poor 'ol Aaron Brooks couldn't read your mind either eh? You thought he was 'Stupid', right? What must you think of me...oooh, wait...I don't care.

09-29-2007, 08:10 PM	#31
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by iceshack149 Off topic, where have you been, saintfan? I appreciate your posts and have seen little of them for a while. Thanks for the shout ice. I've been around. Got banned for taking it to a few moderators here and there, but I've been lurking everywhere. I've been extremely busy the last year and a half since the company I work for got bought out. Just been watching some of these arguments since we've been playing so poorly and can't...hold...it...back...no...mo!

09-29-2007, 08:14 PM	#32
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Same ol' "... and as usual, at one point it turned into a racial thing, because some black people cannot stand hearing any white people criticizing a brotha, because that's racist, ya know? White people should not even look funny at black people , because that's racist. If you are white, you are supposed to say only good things about back pleople, and forgive black people of any wrongdoing, because they are black." WTF are we coming to here? Apparently, there are folks here that have 'issues' that go FAR beyond disagreeing on parity of treatment of QB's. This, and some of the other things I've read on this thread is nothing but venom. Pure and simple. Perhaps the moderator needs to kill this thread before it really gets stuck on stupid. Sadly, I come to these boards to commiserate with fellow B&G followers and discuss the game we all love. I don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing 'We Are the World', but thinly veiled bigotry on either side really has NO place here. Excuse me while I try to figure out where this all went wrong...
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09-29-2007, 08:25 PM	#33
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by leilung "... and as usual, at one point it turned into a racial thing, because some black people cannot stand hearing any white people criticizing a brotha, because that's racist, ya know? White people should not even look funny at black people , because that's racist. If you are white, you are supposed to say only good things about back pleople, and forgive black people of any wrongdoing, because they are black." WTF are we coming to here? Apparently, there are folks here that have 'issues' that go FAR beyond disagreeing on parity of treatment of QB's. This, and some of the other things I've read on this thread is nothing but venom. Pure and simple. Perhaps the moderator needs to kill this thread before it really gets stuck on stupid. Sadly, I come to these boards to commiserate with fellow B&G followers and discuss the game we all love. I don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing 'We Are the World', but thinly veiled bigotry on either side really has NO place here. Excuse me while I try to figure out where this all went wrong... ..and apparently, these folks are Mexican, and see the race issue on a different light.

09-29-2007, 09:38 PM	#34
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Same ol' What's going on? This is what's called an 0-3 start. You know where everyone turns into a head coach. Same as it was before and during the draft. I don't mind the differing opinions, after all opinions are like a_sholes, everybody's got one and they all usually stink. When the debate turns nasty or gets out of hand, i'll just lock the thread. So you guys play nice.

09-30-2007, 10:05 AM	#35
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by saintfan and yes you were one of them...consistently redirected the issue to the QB. Please check your history SF. I was one of the supporters of Brooks. You don't remember that, do you? I once posted he was sufficient to get us to the SB, if the rest of the team played well. And I was most definitely %100 wrong, humiliated I am that I ever said that. It was only later that I learned what a complete failure that man was. So please, before you bash me in the future, make sure what you're saying is actually correct.
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09-30-2007, 10:35 AM	#36
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Same ol' It's everyone's fault but most importantly the coaching staff. After game one Payton had an idea his game plans from last year would not work, we all did and he should really know that last year leftovers are not going to work this year after getting raped by the Bucs and Titans on Monday night in September no less. Coach change the game plan dramatically or the season is lost.

09-30-2007, 10:41 AM	#37
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by saintfan Got banned for taking it to a few moderators here and there, but I've been lurking everywhere. Perhaps there is a reason. I've watched your posts throughout the years, and though you often have valid points to make, your tone can come across as hostile or insulting sometimes. When it isn't really necessary. Regarldless, welcome back SF.

09-30-2007, 10:56 AM	#38
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Same ol' We should all be used to this by now guys and gals. The same product the Saints have been putting out on the field for years and getting paid bigtime by the state and all of it's citizens. The organization has been screaming for years that they were going to move but we always come up with the money and it's odd that it's always enough to keep them in New Orleans for only 4 or 5 more years. Wake up people, call Bensons bluff next time, We have nothing to lose but a losing team and maybe regain a little of our own dignities in the process.
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09-30-2007, 06:13 PM	#39
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy Perhaps there is a reason. I've watched your posts throughout the years, and though you often have valid points to make, your tone can come across as hostile or insulting sometimes. When it isn't really necessary. Regarldless, welcome back SF. Oh there's a reason. But you wouldn't be aware, and forgive me for not toning it just the way you like it. Them's the breaks tho bro...it's a message board. I think you come across with dripping sarcasm in this thread. Maybe you should change too? I guess poor 'ol Aaron Brooks couldn't read your mind either eh? You thought he was 'Stupid', right? What must you think of me...oooh, wait...I don't care.