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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak I wouldn't go as far as to say "thriving"... And if we gain the one piece we need to make a Championship happen, do you really care where he goes? Just because something isn't a good ...

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Old 09-23-2013, 08:25 AM   #221
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Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR

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I wouldn't go as far as to say "thriving"... And if we gain the one piece we need to make a Championship happen, do you really care where he goes?

Just because something isn't a good fit doesn't mean they are a bad player, or that we have a bad system. At ALL. A "bad fit" is not something that is personal.... But I am no Sean Payton.
... I disagree ... if you've followed the Lions run game post-Barry Sanders, and I don't blame you if you haven't, ... what's been going on the first several games of the season could accurately be described as "thriving". I gotta' look back in the archives to find a guy that runs between the tackles like Joique Bell and actually gets across the line of scrimmage, .
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
I wouldn't go as far as to say "thriving"... And if we gain the one piece we need to make a Championship happen, do you really care where he goes?

Just because something isn't a good fit doesn't mean they are a bad player, or that we have a bad system. At ALL. A "bad fit" is not something that is personal.... But I am no Sean Payton.
Oak, Bush and Bell, compared to what they did in New Orleans are having better statistical performances, that's why I said thriving...

That doesn't mean what the Saints are doing is wrong, it's just a bad fit as you said...

Pretty much what many are saying about Ingram with the Saints...
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Here is my take.

Bell - Has zero stats with the Saints.. Pretty unfair to frame the statement that he is flourishing now and doing better with the Saints, when the Saints didn't use him. He was on the Saints team in 2011, should we have used him over Ingram, Sproles, or Thomas then? I do not recall anyone saying he should have been brought up from the practice squad over what we had.
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Bush - We have had this comparison in the Ingram thread... Bush has not gotten any better since he left New Orleans, he has only managed to stay healthy. Neither his Yards Per Carry or his Yards Per Reception have been better than when he was in New Orleans. His ATT per Game is up and he is playing in more games because he is healthy. When you combine his Rushing and Recieving TDs in New Orleans, he scored more per season with us.
Reggie Bush: Career Stats at NFL.com

So, i suppose if you are going to define "flourishing" as staying healthy for Reggie, Ill agree... But he has not proven to be a better RB, just a more utilized RB. Reggie and the rest not being able to stay healthy is a part of the reason we carry so many these days.

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Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post

Pretty much what many are saying about Ingram with the Saints...
An awful lot of people do not understand bad fit and want to make the peg fit instead of going with the correct peg. They take it personally.. Its not, its business. A wood screw is a damned good screw, I ts just not a goof fit for a carburetor.
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Biggest problem with our run game are our offensive line; priority is without a doubt protecting the 20 million dollar quarterback; but we've also got to protect him with the run game...
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Joe Thomas for Mark Ingram and a draft pick?
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Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR

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Joe Thomas for Mark Ingram and a draft pick?
Can't see it happening but I like it. Ingram and a third for Thomas?
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Payton says its not happening.
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Payton says its not happening.
And coach has always been honest with the media.
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