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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by halloween 65 I was just trying to be nice!! I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations....

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Old 12-30-2013, 08:43 PM   #21
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Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

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I was just trying to be nice!!

I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #22
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Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.
Sorry about the jersey!!
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it.
You can't call Jenkins a bust. I do think he is an awful safety, however he should have never been drafted to play FS. He was a CB in college and unfortunately we wasted him on a position he shouldn't have played.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Schmohams View Post
Last year was sign a handful of decent-below average players with low salaries and try them out, and sign one key guy (Kennan Lewis.) I think this year will be similar.
He wasn't below average... He was just a backup
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:12 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Jenkins and Harper are awful safeties...

Don't take my word for it though you can look at this tidbit if you'd like.

" S: Of 88 graded safeties, Roman Harper came in 87th and Malcom Jenkins came in 88th. No joke. Isa Abdul-Quddus came in a middle of the pack 40th. In coverage, Harper was dead last and Jenkins was 4th worst. Against the run, IAQ was 5th worst and Jenkins was 6th worst. Roman Harper gave up 46 receptions, no other safety gave up for than 41. Basically the play on the back end was possibly the worst ever"

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores For Saints Players in 2012 (Defense & Special Teams)

PFF is widely accepted and a trusted source. They should both be gone next season regardless of dead money involved.

Vaccaro> Harper
Bush> Jenkins

It's not even close.
Kind of hard to blame anybody on our defense for 2012. There is not a single soul on this earth that could have succeeded in our defense that year.
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Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Jenkins and Harper are awful safeties...

Don't take my word for it though you can look at this tidbit if you'd like.

" S: Of 88 graded safeties, Roman Harper came in 87th and Malcom Jenkins came in 88th. No joke. Isa Abdul-Quddus came in a middle of the pack 40th. In coverage, Harper was dead last and Jenkins was 4th worst. Against the run, IAQ was 5th worst and Jenkins was 6th worst. Roman Harper gave up 46 receptions, no other safety gave up for than 41. Basically the play on the back end was possibly the worst ever"

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores For Saints Players in 2012 (Defense & Special Teams)

PFF is widely accepted and a trusted source. They should both be gone next season regardless of dead money involved.

Vaccaro> Harper
Bush> Jenkins

It's not even close.
Anyone who uses 2012 stats to evaluate a 2013 Saint is extremely shortsighted and shows a total lack of football knowledge.

Lofton was also one of the worst MLB's in the NFL and Jabari Greer was one of the worst CB's in the entire NFL according to 2012 PFF stats.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:29 PM   #27
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Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
We'll have to draft regardless, and that's why I like Washington St Deonne Bucannon as a complement to Kenny Vaccaro...

That'll keep us from committing money to two bad contracts/defensive backs who can't perform their primary function - coverage...
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This Bucannon kid is projected to be a 2nd round selection. Who else do you have on your short list of ball hawking safeties for next years draft?
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:43 PM   #28
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Anyone who uses 2012 stats to evaluate a 2013 Saint is extremely shortsighted and shows a total lack of football knowledge.

Lofton was also one of the worst MLB's in the NFL and Jabari Greer was one of the worst CB's in the entire NFL according to 2012 PFF stats.
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Kind of hard to blame anybody on our defense for 2012. There is not a single soul on this earth that could have succeeded in our defense that year.
Like a fly in my trap...

I knew you would say that so here are the tidbits from 2011; a year when our D was average and GW was the DC. Enough excuses!

"S: I had a real bad feeling about this before I even looked it up. Roman Harper and Malcolm Jenkins were two of the worst graded starters on my player grades. Sure enough, Harper graded 82nd out of 86 graded players. Just horrible. Jenkins graded 42nd overall, or totally middle of the road, with a negative grade. There's 64 starting safeties in the NFL, so for one to grade as 42nd and another 82nd is horrifying. Yuck. Our defense sucked even harder than I thought. I hate you Gregg Williams."

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores for Saints Players in 2011 (Defense & Special Teams)
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Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

I prefer bush over Jenkins
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:46 PM   #30
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Malcolm Jenkins will be resigned to a 3 year deal. He will be our starting FS/SS next season.
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