This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere

saintsfan1976 · 12-30-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Jenkins is currently the 14th highest paid safety in the NFL.

Harper is currently the 19th highest paid safety in the NFL, but comes with 3.7million dead money.

Cutting Harper frees up only 2.2 million, and you have to replace him.

So basically keeping Harper in 2014 is the equivalent of signing a 2 million safety on the team, which is basically glorified back-up money for a starting safety.

I doubt you can sign a better SS for 2 million than what we already have in Harper.

Harper's already restructured his contract and seems to remain a coach favorite. Vacarro is the future for Ryan's D and will cash in later.
Agree we won't find a cheaper option unless drafted, no?

jeanpierre · 12-30-2013, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Harper's already restructured his contract and seems to remain a coach favorite. Vacarro is the future for Ryan's D and will cash in later.
Agree we won't find a cheaper option unless drafted, no?

We'll have to draft a safety regardless, and that's why I like Washington St Deonne Bucannon as a complement to Kenny Vaccaro...

That'll keep us from committing money to two bad contracts/defensive backs who can't perform their primary function - coverage...

K Major · 12-30-2013, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We'll have to draft regardless, and that's why I like Washington St Deonne Bucannon as a complement to Kenny Vaccaro...

That'll keep us from committing money to two bad contracts/defensive backs who can't perform their primary function - coverage...

JP,
This Bucannon kid is projected to be a 2nd round selection. Who else do you have on your short list of ball hawking safeties for next years draft?

Schmohams · 12-30-2013, 07:04 PM

I doubt someone would trade for Harper either, just use him right RR, he can be used to rush the QB.

halloween 65 · 12-30-2013, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

In 2013, his stats were:
68 tackles, 2.5 sacks and 2 interceptions. Plus as I've stated many times he is adept at covering both Tight Ends and Wide Outs. Please stop with the ridiculous notion that he will either be released or traded.

There are a few things you left out like constantly taking bad angles, piss poor tackling, constantly misjudging the ball in the air, having to try to chase people down after he has blown his assignment, and really does not cover that well at all. Jenkins and his stats says nothing of his field ability which he has very, very little. Being a 1st round #14 pick he was a bad pick, not quite a bust but real, real close!!

ChrisXVI · 12-30-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Being a 1st round #14 pick he was a bad pick, not quite a bust but real, real close!!

I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it.

halloween 65 · 12-30-2013, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it.

I was just trying to be nice!!

ChrisXVI · 12-30-2013, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I was just trying to be nice!!

I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.

halloween 65 · 12-30-2013, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.

Sorry about the jersey!!

73Saint · 01-02-2014, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.

Don't feel bad, i have two of them lol!!!

12-30-2013, 07:36 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Harper's already restructured his contract and seems to remain a coach favorite. Vacarro is the future for Ryan's D and will cash in later. Agree we won't find a cheaper option unless drafted, no? We'll have to draft a safety regardless, and that's why I like Washington St Deonne Bucannon as a complement to Kenny Vaccaro... That'll keep us from committing money to two bad contracts/defensive backs who can't perform their primary function - coverage... ChrisXVI likes this.
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12-30-2013, 08:29 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by jeanpierre We'll have to draft regardless, and that's why I like Washington St Deonne Bucannon as a complement to Kenny Vaccaro... That'll keep us from committing money to two bad contracts/defensive backs who can't perform their primary function - coverage... JP, This Bucannon kid is projected to be a 2nd round selection. Who else do you have on your short list of ball hawking safeties for next years draft?

12-30-2013, 07:04 PM	#4
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere I doubt someone would trade for Harper either, just use him right RR, he can be used to rush the QB.

12-30-2013, 07:09 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 In 2013, his stats were: 68 tackles, 2.5 sacks and 2 interceptions. Plus as I've stated many times he is adept at covering both Tight Ends and Wide Outs. Please stop with the ridiculous notion that he will either be released or traded. There are a few things you left out like constantly taking bad angles, piss poor tackling, constantly misjudging the ball in the air, having to try to chase people down after he has blown his assignment, and really does not cover that well at all. Jenkins and his stats says nothing of his field ability which he has very, very little. Being a 1st round #14 pick he was a bad pick, not quite a bust but real, real close!!

12-30-2013, 07:25 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by halloween 65 Being a 1st round #14 pick he was a bad pick, not quite a bust but real, real close!! I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it. halloween 65 likes this.

12-30-2013, 07:27 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,045 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by Danno Jenkins is currently the 14th highest paid safety in the NFL. Harper is currently the 19th highest paid safety in the NFL, but comes with 3.7million dead money. Cutting Harper frees up only 2.2 million, and you have to replace him. So basically keeping Harper in 2014 is the equivalent of signing a 2 million safety on the team, which is basically glorified back-up money for a starting safety. I doubt you can sign a better SS for 2 million than what we already have in Harper. Harper's already restructured his contract and seems to remain a coach favorite. Vacarro is the future for Ryan's D and will cash in later. Agree we won't find a cheaper option unless drafted, no?

12-30-2013, 07:41 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it. I was just trying to be nice!!

12-30-2013, 07:43 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by halloween 65 I was just trying to be nice!! I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.

12-30-2013, 07:49 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations. Sorry about the jersey!!

01-02-2014, 09:14 AM	#10
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations. Don't feel bad, i have two of them lol!!!

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