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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think the problem is drafting more than it is coaching. Every FA LB we signed comes here and plays about the same as they did with their other team (Lofton, Hawthorne, Vilma, Haralson, Shanle). Every LB that left here ...

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Old 11-10-2014, 05:03 PM   #11
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I think the problem is drafting more than it is coaching.

Every FA LB we signed comes here and plays about the same as they did with their other team (Lofton, Hawthorne, Vilma, Haralson, Shanle).

Every LB that left here for another team ends up playing about the same as when they were here (Dunbar, Casillas, Fujita).
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Old 11-11-2014, 12:20 AM   #12
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JR and Jordan are the only ones getting pressure. Our biggest problem on D this year comes from the DT/NT position. No push is being generated in the middle, Hicks has been complete **** this year and everyone else is worse than him at rushing the QB. If you pay attention you can see a rotation of DTs through the game on passing downs, this is because none of them are getting it done.

Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now. Bunkley has never been a pass rusher. I am afraid we don't have an in house solution to this problem.

Imagine how well our D would be doing with Suh or McCoy in the middle pushing the pocket and setting up Cam/JR...

Seriously watch the game tape... no push in the middle and the QB can step up freely 90% of the time.
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Old 11-11-2014, 12:23 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II View Post
Surely there is a college coach who knows how to develop LB'ers. Vitt ain't that guy unfortunately.
Vitt and Payton are buddies, he aint going anywhere.

Who did Payton put in charge during the 2012 season? Vitt... lol lol lol

We all know Vitt is not capable of being anything more than a tit sucker. RR should have been free to bring his own guys in.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:51 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Schmohams View Post
You liked the giants LBs... Who happened to give up 300+ yards rushing?
If you watched the game, you saw the 43 defensive line ends lose containment on Russel Wilson (there were alot of non-calls by refs as the game was in Seattle), where the Seattle QB ran for really big gashes (14/107 yds) and the Giants LBers were wore out from being on the field where Lynch got his in the second half (21/140 yds); for most of the first half, the Giants LBers kept that bottled up...

But it was there effort and assignments (covering not just RBs, TEs, but WRs) and speed that was most impressive...
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:35 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
JR and Jordan are the only ones getting pressure. Our biggest problem on D this year comes from the DT/NT position. No push is being generated in the middle, Hicks has been complete **** this year and everyone else is worse than him at rushing the QB. If you pay attention you can see a rotation of DTs through the game on passing downs, this is because none of them are getting it done.

Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now. Bunkley has never been a pass rusher. I am afraid we don't have an in house solution to this problem.

Imagine how well our D would be doing with Suh or McCoy in the middle pushing the pocket and setting up Cam/JR...

Seriously watch the game tape... no push in the middle and the QB can step up freely 90% of the time.
Some people thought I was crazy for wanting a NT in the 1st last draft, funny!!
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:44 AM   #16
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Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now.
IMO, Hicks hasn't been anywhere near as disappointing as Vaccaro has been.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:46 AM   #17
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IMO, Hicks hasn't been anywhere near as disappointing as Vaccaro has been.
Hicks has been invisible, Vaccaro has been so bad it's hard not to spot him messing up.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:55 AM   #18
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sorry everyone yells about players and assistance coaches but why in the world does everyone leave the one person who is truly responsible for this mess. The staff and players are the responsibility of one person ROB RYAN

Why does every one leave ROB out of this topic. Love drinking with the guy? his defense has not done anything since the bye week of last year.

get some guts and go after the person you should be head hunting for.
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Some people thought I was crazy for wanting a NT in the 1st last draft, funny!!
You do know thats NOT why they think you're crazy right?
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
speed that was most impressive...
^^ This. If you watch any non-Saints games at all, games with good teams in them, you will see how SLOOOOOOOWWWWWW the Saints are, on both sides of the ball. Seattle's D swarming to the ball, the Giants D, the Broncos receivers breaking free, the Eagles on kick returns.... it sure feels like all these other units have lightning fast guys on them, compared to the Saints....speed speed speed, it's what this team needs.
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