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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Jeff Ireland was one of the worst GM's in the league... I get that he has ties to Sean Payton but that's a tough hire to feel good about....

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Old 01-20-2015, 10:10 AM   #21
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Jeff Ireland was one of the worst GM's in the league... I get that he has ties to Sean Payton but that's a tough hire to feel good about.
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:13 AM   #22
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Why wouldn't you be excited? We added another proven, trusted mind to the coaching staff.

Look at teams like New England and Baltimore and Seattle who have former HC's and proven coaches. We need that.

Besides, we've lost a LOT of talent to other teams over the years.
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Why wouldn't you be excited? We added another proven, trusted mind to the coaching staff.
He's not a proven, trusted mind... He was awful at his job and was a joke around the league.
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:27 AM   #24
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Dolphins draft history:

2013

1 3 Dion Jordan DE Oregon
2 54 Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
3 77 Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee
3 93 Will Davis CB Utah State
4 104 Jelani Jenkins LB Florida
4 106 Dion Sims TE Michigan State
5 164 Mike Gillislee RB Florida
5 166 Caleb Sturgis K Florida
7 250 Don Jones SS Arkansas State

2012

1 8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
2 42 Jonathan Martin T Stanford
3 72 Olivier Vernon DE Miami (Fla.)
3 78 Michael Egnew TE Missouri
4 97 Lamar Miller RB Miami (Fla.)
5 155 Josh Kaddu LB Oregon
6 183 B.J. Cunningham WR Michigan State
7 215 Kheeston Randall DT Texas
7 227 Rishard Matthews WR Nevada-Reno

2011

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2 62 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
4 111 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
6 174 Charles Clay RB Tulsa
7 231 Frank Kearse DT Alabama A&M
7 235 Jimmy Wilson DB Montana

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2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan
3 66 Kendall Langford DE Hampton
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Jeff Ireland was one of the worst GM's in the league... I get that he has ties to Sean Payton but that's a tough hire to feel good about.
Payton loves to bring his buddies in regardless of talent, we should be well aware of this by now.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:00 AM   #26
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C'mon Sean don't do this. lol
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:04 AM   #27
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Well to be fair, we need to look at the drafts of the KC Chiefs from 1997-2000 as he was in the same position then as the Saints are looking to hire him in now.

2000
1.21 WR Sylvester Morris
2.23 DB William Bartee
3.23 DB Greg Wesley
4.21 RB Frank Moreau
5.24 WR Dante' Hall
5.33 DB Pat Dennis
6.22 OL Darnell Alford
7.02 WR Desmond Kitchings

1999
2.23 RB Mike Cloud
4.13 WR Larry Parker

1998
3.27 RB Rashaan Shehee
4.28 LB Greg Favors
5.05 DB Robert Williams
6.28 DL Derrick Ransom
7.27 DB Eric Warfield

1997
1.13 TE Tony Gonzalez
2.17 WR Kevin Lockett
4.14 QB Pat Barnes
5.33 RB June Henley
6.32 WR Isaac Byrd
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Well if Rob has a bad season Allen can blame him. If Allen takes over and has a bad season, who do you blame? Payton? 2 more bad seasons and Brees window is done.2 more bad seasons Payton is done. Maybe 2 more seasons Vitt retires because no other team would hire his sorry a$$ and Johnson follows in his footsteps. 6 DC's in 10 years that is truely amazing without position coach changes. Vitt and Johnson must be keeping some deep dark secrets to keep their jobs.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:21 PM   #29
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He's not a proven, trusted mind... He was awful at his job and was a joke around the league.
I'm talking about Dennis Allen, not Mr. Ireland.
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When I read that we hired Ireland I was excited about it......not so much after a little research. However, Ireland is supposed to have an eye for talent.

I don't care that they didn't succeed in upper management. They are back to doing what they do well. They both had success doing the job that got them noticed around the NFL. Which is why someone else wanted them and gave them a chance.
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