2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

[K Major]

Shaq Lawson headed to medical re-check to have shoulder looked at again | ProFootballTalk

[jeanpierre]

Tellin' y'all Dodd is the Clemson DE to take, not Lawson; and it's not even close...

Dodd has got size (6' 5". 280 lbs) and versatility to play a 3-4 DE, 4-3 DE or DT...

If we moved back in the first round (#20-25), gaining a 2R pick and getting Dodd...

..., wow, now that would be an impressive draft day move...that would be a Jedi move...

[WillSaints81]

Originally Posted by K Major

Shaq Lawson headed to medical re-check to have shoulder looked at again | ProFootballTalk

I just read about that today. But I don't think we should pass him up because of this. It would be like passing up Collins last year.

[clintonrebel]

Chris Jones and Robert nkemdiche. It's conceivable to grab both. Either would be a huge boost to DL for several years.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by clintonrebel

Chris Jones and Robert nkemdiche. It's conceivable to grab both. Either would be a huge boost to DL for several years.

Want absolutely no part of Nkemdiche; just don't want that kind of drama with the Saints...

[WillSaints81]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Want absolutely no part of Nkemdiche; just don't want that kind of drama with the Saints...

As long as it's not Billings.

[WillSaints81]

Next five and with a overall top ten ranking

Number One
Kevin Dodd vs Alabama (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Kevin Dodd vs Louisville (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Kevin Dodd vs Oklahoma (2015) | Draft Breakdown

No surprise as I was expecting it. However, I do not see him better than Lawson. He looked a little skiddish to start against Bama but got better as the game progressed. He was solid against the other two teams. He is rounds 1 to 2.

Number Two
I just accidentally deleted the links but Jonathan Bullard. He was unimpressive against Alabama but then I saw his Ole Miss and Tennessee videos and those were great. And the Ole Miss comparison to Ogbah was enough for me to move him ahead of him, Buckner, and Bosa.

This is one I have a feeling Ireland will get if he's there in third.......

Number Three
Shilique Calhoun vs Oregon (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Shilique Calhoun vs Iowa (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was much better against Iowa compared to Oregon. However, Iowa was not in the same league as Oregon. He made maybe one play against Oregon that was spectacular. He also got hurt in the game and played through pain. I would not draft him without drafting a DE earlier.

Number Four
Charles Tapper vs Kansas (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Unfortunately I probably should not have even bothered. As that was the best clip I could find from last season. The other was ISU but that has been known as the defensive school of the Big 12 not known at all for offense. I have him second to last because he did make some nice plays and had three or four sacks in the Kansas game.

Number Five
Carl Nassib vs Ohio State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Let's just not even go any further. This was the worst of the bunch.

Draft
Round 1-Dodd
Round 2-Bullard
Round 3(as a second DE)-Calhoun
Do Not Draft
Round 3-Tapper
Round 3-Nassib

Overall rankings
1.Shaq Lawson, Clemson
2.Noah Spence, WMU
3.Kevin Dodd, Clemson
4.Jonathan Bullard, Florida
5.Joey Bosa, OSU
6.DeForest Buckner, Oregon
7.Emmanuel Ogbah, Oklahoma State
8.Shalique Calhoun, MSU
9.Charles Tapper, OU
10.Carl Nassib, PSU

Even if he's second, I would rather skip out on Spence.

[hagan714]

Shaq Lawson - Of all the players in the draft he is the number 1 player that impressed me with his off season beauty show. He showed more flexibility with his LB drill than i thought possible. He actually surprise the heck out me posting 4.62 forty. I was expecting more of a 4.80. He is back on my board at 12 because of this and the fact he is one of the best run DE in the draft. Counter moves in pass rush is his thing and that is why I see a lot of Cam in his game. Is he a target at 12? I am not there yet. He is a solid player to settle on IMO. Lawson is a WDE/34OLB.

Dodd at 12 worries me for one reason. His production did not start till DJ Reader returned to the field. That is why DJ is on my radar. To me that says more about DJ and the impact he had on the defense than the stats Dodd was racking up after DJ return. That is also why I look at Lawson in a more favorable light. Teams did not run at Lawson. They rather run at Dodd. Not saying they had much success at either. But when they did pick their poison it was Dodd. The return of Reader changed everything for Dodd.

Gotta love this time of the year. one scout says neither can rush the QB. Another says they have the athleticism to be a LB. which is it? That is why I LOL at times. Over scouting, nick picking and second guessing

I will be ok if neither ends up saint. If one did I am ok with it also and will sit back and watch things develop. Though the Dodd pick would come with a a bit of a sigh.

I want a shot at DJ. At the senior bowl he measured in at 6-foot-3, 340 pounds with a 78-inch wingspan and destroyed everything in front of him. That was his game weight at Clemson 340. Dropping 20 pounds or so for the combine did little to speed him up. Put the weight back on and it will do little to slow him down. Scary part is he is far from a finished product IMO. I think his ceiling is higher than people give him credit for. He is a NT and that is it. Just like Starr is for the panthers. He could end up being a huge steal so late in the draft. A NT you must account for. Now that is something the saints have not had in a long time.

Foot Note North of the border, defensive lineman David Onyemata, who looked tremendous in spots during East-West Shrine week, performed for 17 NFL teams at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg. Onyemata completed 33 reps on the bench (arm length 33 1/4 inches), posted a vertical jump of 33 inches, a broad jump of 9-11 and ran the 40 in 5.06 seconds at 300 pounds. The New Orleans Saints and Philadelphia Eagles put Onyemata through defensive line drills.

[jeanpierre]

More Scouting reports are starting to paint a better picture...

...and starting to get the feeling that we're trading someone, on defense, for a draft pick, again...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.*

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) OG Conner McGovern, Missouri; ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 249 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) NT Chris Mayes, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 338 lbs.

Hoping it all continues to come together...

[CheramieIII]

Would love to see either one at 12 or hell trade our 1st next year and get them both:

Jarran Reed - DT, Alabama

Reed was a two-year starter for the Crimson Tide. He lines up at both defensive end and nose tackle in the 'Bama 3-4 defense. This is a dominant run defender. He easily locks out blockers over his nose and he can also hold his ground vs. the double team. He is always on his feet and he will also flash the quickness to penetrate and play on the other side of the line of scrimmage. He has tremendous range because of his quickness and effort. As a pass rusher, he can push the pocket with his power and he flashes a quick arm-over as well. Overall, Reed is impossible to move in the run game and I believe he has upside as an interior pass rusher.

A'Shawn Robinson - DT, Alabama

Robinson was a two-year starter at defensive tackle for the Crimson Tide. He has outstanding height, bulk and athleticism for the position. Against the run, he uses his length and strength to stack blockers and holds the point of attack. His pad level is too high at times but he's still strong enough to resist angle blocks and double teams. His effort is solid. As a pass rusher, he flashes an explosive first step as well as an effective slap/swim move. Overall, Robinson has all of the tools to be a dominant three-down presence but he hasn't put it all together yet. His best football is ahead of him.