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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 The points you made regarding the DB's were the reason why I was so vehemently against releasing Keenan. At least Keenan knew how to and utilized the ability to look back and defend the ball. Being ...

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Old 08-28-2016, 01:13 PM   #91
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Re: 5-11 to 7-9

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 View Post
The points you made regarding the DB's were the reason why I was so vehemently against releasing Keenan. At least Keenan knew how to and utilized the ability to look back and defend the ball. Being in position is one thing but playing the ball is another. Also if you're looking back at the ball, you're less likely to get a Pass Interference call because you are playing the ball and not just playing the receiver. But this is going to happen with young guys.
Yeah I didn't understand the early release of Keenan, either. I understand if the final cuts are due and he just doesn't look close to returning, that you would have to cut ties. But I really think he was worth giving the chance to come back.

But yeah, finding the ball is everything. Our guys are always running into receivers and hand fighting with them, instead of turning their heads. That's not only leading to big plays and big penalties, but it's another reason why we don't get interceptions. We could create so many more opportunities for our offense if we could just get back to creating those turnovers. You don't have to be top 10 in yards against, and we always say that.

I just don't get what is so hard about turning your head.
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:21 PM   #92
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I recall Hebert saying the other day that the Vikings are O LINE heavy (specifically guard). Alex Boone signed a new deal this off season. They can't keep em all. Saints would be crazy not to keep on eye on their upcoming cuts.
Louis Vasquez of The Broncos is also available. He has played both T/G spots. He has to be better than what we have currently.
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:32 PM   #93
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Louis Vasquez of The Broncos is also available. He has played both T/G spots. He has to be better than what we have currently.
Here is a good read on LV (oldest is at the bottom) :

The Titans are still in talks with free agent RG Louis Vasquez.
Vasquez visited Tennessee last week, but left without a deal. The Titans could bring him in as a pass-blocking upgrade over Jeremiah Poutasi and Chance Warmack. Vasquez is coming off a down season in Gary Kubiak's zone scheme, grading as PFF’s No. 50 guard out of 81 qualifiers...


Vasquez was better as a pass protector than a run blocker last season. His run blocking grade for last year was well below average.

Vasquez was entering the final year of his four-year, $23.5 million pact. He started 18-of-19 games last season, but really struggled in coach Gary Kubiak's zone-blocking scheme, especially as a run blocker. Vasquez (6'5/335) is ideally built to be a power blocker. He's still just 29 (in April) and should find a healthy market. Vasquez can play either guard or right tackle in a pinch.

Vasquez is athletic enough to fit new coach Gary Kubiak's zone-running scheme, and has experience in ZBS from his time in San Diego
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Got to be worth a look. Lelito and Kelemete are good back upd not just starters
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:42 PM   #95
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
Here is a good read on LV (oldest is at the bottom) :

The Titans are still in talks with free agent RG Louis Vasquez.
Vasquez visited Tennessee last week, but left without a deal. The Titans could bring him in as a pass-blocking upgrade over Jeremiah Poutasi and Chance Warmack. Vasquez is coming off a down season in Gary Kubiak's zone scheme, grading as PFF’s No. 50 guard out of 81 qualifiers...


Vasquez was better as a pass protector than a run blocker last season. His run blocking grade for last year was well below average.

Vasquez was entering the final year of his four-year, $23.5 million pact. He started 18-of-19 games last season, but really struggled in coach Gary Kubiak's zone-blocking scheme, especially as a run blocker. Vasquez (6'5/335) is ideally built to be a power blocker. He's still just 29 (in April) and should find a healthy market. Vasquez can play either guard or right tackle in a pinch.

Vasquez is athletic enough to fit new coach Gary Kubiak's zone-running scheme, and has experience in ZBS from his time in San Diego
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Sign him and put him at LG. Then shift Lelito to backup RG/C.
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Got to be worth a look. Lelito and Kelemete are good back upd not just starters
I say cut both Lelito and Kelemete, sign Vasquez and keep Turner.
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I would cut either. They are better back ups than most teams have. Both for me are the sort of players too good for backups not good enough for starters if that makes sense
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PFF stats showed Kelemete had a pretty good game against Pittsburgh, but Lelito was awful again for the 3rd straight game.




Top offensive grades:
FB Austin Johnson, 79.6
WR Willie Snead, 79.6
QB Drew Brees, 78.2
G Senio Kelemete, 77.1
C Max Unger, 76.1

Notable offensive linemen have issues once again

Left guard Tim Lelito gave up two pressures to bring his preseason total to seven in three partial games. Lelito surprisingly has graded below-average in all three games.

LT Terron Armstead played just six snaps before leaving the game, but allowed two pressures on three snaps in pass protection and was called for a holding penalty on one.

Last year’s first-round pick Andrus Peat continues to struggle after his third-straight below-average game, and is now among the lowest-graded offensive linemen in the league through three games. In all, Saints quarterbacks were pressured on 44 percent of dropbacks against the Steelers.

On the positive side, starting center Max Unger had his best outing thus far in the preseason.

I think Lelito may be the primary problem.
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The 1990 Buffalo Bills and the 2000 Giant both lost all 4 preseason games and made it to the Super Bowl. They both lost the big game.
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PFF stats showed Kelemete had a pretty good game against Pittsburgh, but Lelito was awful again for the 3rd straight game.







I think Lelito may be the primary problem.
And Peat
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