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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by halloween 65 It' was pretty bad last night. I looked at the schedule after the game last night and 6 games I give us being generous. I don't see Brees here after this season, he'll know how ...

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Old 08-27-2016, 02:18 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
It' was pretty bad last night. I looked at the schedule after the game last night and 6 games I give us being generous. I don't see Brees here after this season, he'll know how Archie felt for years at this rate. Payton got away from his bread and butter, a strong O-line.
Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season.
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:41 PM   #52
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It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.
33 yards in the first quarter, not that bad at all
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:46 PM   #53
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I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to.

You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like.

A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late.

Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism
I certainly will not accept unrealistic turd polishing. You can certainly place it forward, but I am going to produce honest assessments each and every time. You can **** rainbows and sunshine all day, but we are 7-9, 3 of the last 4 seasons, and if we have a winning record this season I will be surprised. Again, I hope all of you are correct, but there is absolutely nothing to point to such optimism, nothing at all.

By all means bask in BS, have at it because once the reality hits in the reg season you're likely to be hard to find around the boards.

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Old 08-27-2016, 02:47 PM   #54
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Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season.
This is the scary part. Jacksonville looks to be improving. How can you just keep producing crap and you have been building for three years and nothing is improving.
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deleted post, willsaint81 I confused you with willmak, my bad
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SP has had 5 wining seasons and 4 losing seasons. Can we really call him a good NFL coach?
One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most.
We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me.
I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it.
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Championship!...(crickets chirping).....

I said championship!!!! Wahooo! Sean and Co. are just messin with everyone this preseason! (Still crickets)

Here we come Super Bowl!!!
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One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most.
We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me.
I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it.
so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:27 PM   #59
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so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years
Great coaches win

We are barely hovering above .500 with Payton, one more losing season and we'll be 5-5 in terms of winning and losing seasons.

How much longer is he going to be classed as a successful coach? We won a superbowl nearly 7 years ago and have made 3 trips to the playoffs since.

We'll see how this season plays out, preseason is not making it look promising but another non-playoff season and I absolutely have to believe Payton is on his way out.
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:37 PM   #60
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LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.
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