NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

rezburna · 08-14-2018, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

It doesn't matter if it was started by Eskimos. They help all, not just black people today.

Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements.

Beastmode · 08-14-2018, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements.

Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point.

rezburna · 08-14-2018, 03:55 PM

I just commented because I saw my name though. Y’all can have the conversation back. Black hatred of Whites being what’s wrong with America shifted to the entire world...so that’s where it left off.

lee909 · 08-14-2018, 06:36 PM

How much of them leadership would there have been without outside interference

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

How much of them leadership would there have been without outside interference

Or better stated, would their leadership be any less corrupt now without outside interference? My guess is no, but we can hypothetical this to death is you wanna.

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 06:40 PM

Hate. For hate's sake. How can anyone bring themselves to believe that is ever a good idea?

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 09:13 PM

You know, one thing that always bothered me. Since we all came from Africa, how is it that any of us could ever 'steal' any of that land?

I mean, I understand the argument, flawed as I believe it to be, but from a philosophical position it's not a bad argument.

Papa Voodoo · 08-15-2018, 11:37 AM

CK was told by a vet to kneel as it was the honorable thing to do instead of sitting. NFL kneeling was started by a military veteran (white if it matters). I have tickets for the Rams game in November. Still love the Saints as much as ever (took me a while to come to terms with how scared they played in the 1st half of the Vikes game), still love my country and countrymen and look forward to a fun game and NFL season. Kneel, don't kneel, twirl in a circle with pom poms; their employer allows them to do it.

saintfan · 08-15-2018, 01:26 PM

Kaepernick was sitting until someone with some class advised him otherwise.

I lost complete interest in Kaepernick and fully recognized his lack of sincerity when I found out he doesn't vote.

The timeline shows Kaepernick was far more influenced by a radical radio host in Oakland than he was anything else. The man can not have an intelligent conversation on the subject he claims to be protesting.

The color of his skin or anyone who advised that fool is completely irrelevant.

Papa Voodoo · 08-15-2018, 02:08 PM

I was never a fan of CK as a QB. He had to run to win and there is a long line of running QBs that show it's not a way to win consistently. Manning and Brady are trees. Steve Young and John Elway did both well.

Not sure CK's voting record would equal a lack of sincerity necessarily. Generals, media execs, etc. don't vote for different reasons. However, if he can't intelligently explain his own protest that would definitely take away his credibility. Oscar Jackson is able to do that and he's from the Oakland area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBk_KfjgGDk

08-14-2018, 03:41 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by Beastmode It doesn't matter if it was started by Eskimos. They help all, not just black people today. Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements.

08-14-2018, 03:52 PM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements. Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point.
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08-14-2018, 03:55 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem I just commented because I saw my name though. Y’all can have the conversation back. Black hatred of Whites being what’s wrong with America shifted to the entire world...so that’s where it left off.

08-14-2018, 06:36 PM	#4
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by lee909 How much of them leadership would there have been without outside interference Or better stated, would their leadership be any less corrupt now without outside interference? My guess is no, but we can hypothetical this to death is you wanna.

08-14-2018, 06:40 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Hate. For hate's sake. How can anyone bring themselves to believe that is ever a good idea?

08-14-2018, 09:13 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem You know, one thing that always bothered me. Since we all came from Africa, how is it that any of us could ever 'steal' any of that land? I mean, I understand the argument, flawed as I believe it to be, but from a philosophical position it's not a bad argument.
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08-15-2018, 11:37 AM	#8
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem CK was told by a vet to kneel as it was the honorable thing to do instead of sitting. NFL kneeling was started by a military veteran (white if it matters). I have tickets for the Rams game in November. Still love the Saints as much as ever (took me a while to come to terms with how scared they played in the 1st half of the Vikes game), still love my country and countrymen and look forward to a fun game and NFL season. Kneel, don't kneel, twirl in a circle with pom poms; their employer allows them to do it.

08-15-2018, 01:26 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Kaepernick was sitting until someone with some class advised him otherwise. I lost complete interest in Kaepernick and fully recognized his lack of sincerity when I found out he doesn't vote. The timeline shows Kaepernick was far more influenced by a radical radio host in Oakland than he was anything else. The man can not have an intelligent conversation on the subject he claims to be protesting. The color of his skin or anyone who advised that fool is completely irrelevant.