NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

Papa Voodoo · 08-13-2018, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by arsaint

And I see cam Jordan has taken to twitter to pick a fight with Trump.

The NFL is going to go the way of the Dixie Chicks if this doesn't stop...

Why does the protest have to be during the national anthem???

Kneel during the coin toss. Go to the 50 before/during/after halftime and kneel, raise your fists, or pull your pants down around your ankles. Lay flat on your backs during the 2 minute timeout. Or refuse to leave the field after the game until you've had a full fledged protest march.

AGAIN WHY DOES YOUR PROTEST HAVE TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE ANTHEM.???

I know I'm small potatoes in the NFL budget but I will not buy merchandise, Sunday Ticket and will not attend any more live games while this continues. And I'm sure I'm not alone...

I usually sit during the anthem. Not in protest, just comfort. Why are the concession stands open during the anthem if this is such a big deal?

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I opted not to attend the Air Force academy when I got nominated. My friends that did decide to serve feel strongly against the fans, not the players. Their words to me were that this is the whole reason they went and it was never about a flag or the anthem; it was about the people and their rights to be free.

You're arguing with a group of people who themselves are closet racists. No amount of logic or reasoning you attempt is going to get through. My ancestors were slaves and endured the Jim Crow South, but as far as they’re concerned the small majority that owned slaves or that wanted segregation were cunning enough to convince all the others that it was a good idea for 300 years much to their own dismay, and we're all somehow unaffected by the legacy of our ancestors. *shrug*

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 12:01 PM

Go ask Kap what he wants. He’ll tell you police reform and social programs to help disadvantaged communities, especially Black ones. The rest of the NFL players will echo the sentiment.

Ask me what I want. The throne. I want it all.

My advice? Better learn to deal with Kap and friends before they become me.

frydaddy · 08-13-2018, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

You don’t know what racism is.

I do though. I have a clear example of it in front of me

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

I do though. I have a clear example of it in front of me

How’s your hair look in the mirror today? Do you have a full, vanity mirror or?

frydaddy · 08-13-2018, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

How’s your hair look in the mirror today? Do you have a full, vanity mirror or?

Lol, thin and balding as usual, you clever little troll you. Go ahead and be butthurt by the truth, go ahead and continue to make my point for me. I'm laughing bro.

And be careful, your thinly veiled racism is showing

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Lol, thin and balding as usual, you clever little troll you. Go ahead and be butthurt by the truth, go ahead and continue to make my point for me. I'm laughing bro.

And be careful, your thinly veiled racism is showing

Oh. Let me pull up my sagging pants then. I usually tuck it underneath them.

Never forget though, I’m not your bro. Laugh on.

frydaddy · 08-13-2018, 12:51 PM

Lololololol. This is great. You've saved me a lot of time by simply and beautifully illustrating my point for me. Bravo, BRO!

Fact is, I don't give a flying f**k about skin color. That's literally all it is to me, color. No different from hair or eye color. The color of my skin doesn't make me special, the color of yours doesn't make you special. What matters to me is attitude, and yours sucks. Not because you're black, not because I disagree with you on most things (for the record, I like and agree with most football related stuff you have to say. Not that you care) It sucks because you sit here and you make false accusations and broad generalizations of people based on their skin color, whilst simultaneously complaining about people doing it to folks who share your skin color. Your hypocrisy is easily spotted all within the same thread, if not the same post. And it's not like it just started today either. I've considered calling you on it in the past, but ultimately decided it wasnt worth it, because I saw it going exactly like this. But it's a slow day at work today and I'm bored and I thought oh what the hell, let's poke the hornet's nest.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Lololololol. This is great. You've saved me a lot of time by simply and beautifully illustrating my point for me. Bravo, BRO!

Fact is, I don't give a flying f**k about skin color. That's literally all it is to me, color. No different from hair or eye color. The color of my skin doesn't make me special, the color of yours doesn't make you special. What matters to me is attitude, and yours sucks. Not because you're black, not because I disagree with you on most things (for the record, I like and agree with most football related stuff you have to say. Not that you care) It sucks because you sit here and you make false accusations and broad generalizations of people based on their skin color, whilst simultaneously complaining about people doing it to folks who share your skin color. Your hypocrisy is easily spotted all within the same thread, if not the same post. And it's not like it just started today either. I've considered calling you on it in the past, but ultimately decided it wasnt worth it, because I saw it going exactly like this. But it's a slow day at work today and I'm bored and I thought oh what the hell, let's poke the hornet's nest.

I don’t complain about it at all. I’m not Kap. I’m not protesting oppression. A protest is merely an aggressive form of begging. I’m not begging you or your community for anything. I’m telling you I’m coming to get it and when I do just remember there were people who asked nicely first.

You could hate Black people, Muslims, or Hispanics. It wouldn’t matter to me. I’m not here to convince you to think one way or the other. I’m here to tell you I’m coming, and you can experience the way the world is when it’s made in my image.

Y’all have made false accusations about what the protests are really about, but hey, it doesn’t matter. Feel how you feel. Think how you want to think. Believe what you want to believe. Saintfan tried to convince me not to give up on this kumbaya **** a while back. Nah. **** that. Get out the way or get rolled over. Simple.

These players are actually trying to work with you to fix the problems in this country. They’re asking for you help. The goal should outweigh the means, but since they don’t and never have, **** it. Get it how you live.

frydaddy · 08-13-2018, 01:07 PM

Just so we're clear, I don't bear you any ill will. Even though we disagree, and even though I do think you're kind of a racist, I don't think you're a bad guy. And I realize that at this point I've probably made you angry, and you could care less about whether I think you're "good" or "bad" but I feel it's important to clarify.

08-13-2018, 11:54 AM	#31
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by arsaint And I see cam Jordan has taken to twitter to pick a fight with Trump. The NFL is going to go the way of the Dixie Chicks if this doesn't stop... Why does the protest have to be during the national anthem??? Kneel during the coin toss. Go to the 50 before/during/after halftime and kneel, raise your fists, or pull your pants down around your ankles. Lay flat on your backs during the 2 minute timeout. Or refuse to leave the field after the game until you've had a full fledged protest march. AGAIN WHY DOES YOUR PROTEST HAVE TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE ANTHEM.??? I know I'm small potatoes in the NFL budget but I will not buy merchandise, Sunday Ticket and will not attend any more live games while this continues. And I'm sure I'm not alone... I usually sit during the anthem. Not in protest, just comfort. Why are the concession stands open during the anthem if this is such a big deal?

08-13-2018, 11:57 AM	#32
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I opted not to attend the Air Force academy when I got nominated. My friends that did decide to serve feel strongly against the fans, not the players. Their words to me were that this is the whole reason they went and it was never about a flag or the anthem; it was about the people and their rights to be free. You're arguing with a group of people who themselves are closet racists. No amount of logic or reasoning you attempt is going to get through. My ancestors were slaves and endured the Jim Crow South, but as far as they’re concerned the small majority that owned slaves or that wanted segregation were cunning enough to convince all the others that it was a good idea for 300 years much to their own dismay, and we're all somehow unaffected by the legacy of our ancestors. shrug

08-13-2018, 12:01 PM	#33
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Go ask Kap what he wants. He’ll tell you police reform and social programs to help disadvantaged communities, especially Black ones. The rest of the NFL players will echo the sentiment. Ask me what I want. The throne. I want it all. My advice? Better learn to deal with Kap and friends before they become me.

08-13-2018, 12:19 PM	#34
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna You don’t know what racism is. I do though. I have a clear example of it in front of me saintfan and iceshack149 like this.

08-13-2018, 12:20 PM	#35
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by frydaddy I do though. I have a clear example of it in front of me How’s your hair look in the mirror today? Do you have a full, vanity mirror or?

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08-13-2018, 12:27 PM	#36
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna How’s your hair look in the mirror today? Do you have a full, vanity mirror or? Lol, thin and balding as usual, you clever little troll you. Go ahead and be butthurt by the truth, go ahead and continue to make my point for me. I'm laughing bro. And be careful, your thinly veiled racism is showing

08-13-2018, 12:30 PM	#37
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by frydaddy Lol, thin and balding as usual, you clever little troll you. Go ahead and be butthurt by the truth, go ahead and continue to make my point for me. I'm laughing bro. And be careful, your thinly veiled racism is showing Oh. Let me pull up my sagging pants then. I usually tuck it underneath them. Never forget though, I’m not your bro. Laugh on.

08-13-2018, 12:51 PM	#38
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Lololololol. This is great. You've saved me a lot of time by simply and beautifully illustrating my point for me. Bravo, BRO! Fact is, I don't give a flying f**k about skin color. That's literally all it is to me, color. No different from hair or eye color. The color of my skin doesn't make me special, the color of yours doesn't make you special. What matters to me is attitude, and yours sucks. Not because you're black, not because I disagree with you on most things (for the record, I like and agree with most football related stuff you have to say. Not that you care) It sucks because you sit here and you make false accusations and broad generalizations of people based on their skin color, whilst simultaneously complaining about people doing it to folks who share your skin color. Your hypocrisy is easily spotted all within the same thread, if not the same post. And it's not like it just started today either. I've considered calling you on it in the past, but ultimately decided it wasnt worth it, because I saw it going exactly like this. But it's a slow day at work today and I'm bored and I thought oh what the hell, let's poke the hornet's nest. iceshack149 likes this.
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08-13-2018, 01:03 PM	#39
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by frydaddy Lololololol. This is great. You've saved me a lot of time by simply and beautifully illustrating my point for me. Bravo, BRO! Fact is, I don't give a flying fk about skin color. That's literally all it is to me, color. No different from hair or eye color. The color of my skin doesn't make me special, the color of yours doesn't make you special. What matters to me is attitude, and yours sucks. Not because you're black, not because I disagree with you on most things (for the record, I like and agree with most football related stuff you have to say. Not that you care) It sucks because you sit here and you make false accusations and broad generalizations of people based on their skin color, whilst simultaneously complaining about people doing it to folks who share your skin color. Your hypocrisy is easily spotted all within the same thread, if not the same post. And it's not like it just started today either. I've considered calling you on it in the past, but ultimately decided it wasnt worth it, because I saw it going exactly like this. But it's a slow day at work today and I'm bored and I thought oh what the hell, let's poke the hornet's nest. I don’t complain about it at all. I’m not Kap. I’m not protesting oppression. A protest is merely an aggressive form of begging. I’m not begging you or your community for anything. I’m telling you I’m coming to get it and when I do just remember there were people who asked nicely first. You could hate Black people, Muslims, or Hispanics. It wouldn’t matter to me. I’m not here to convince you to think one way or the other. I’m here to tell you I’m coming, and you can experience the way the world is when it’s made in my image. Y’all have made false accusations about what the protests are really about, but hey, it doesn’t matter. Feel how you feel. Think how you want to think. Believe what you want to believe. Saintfan tried to convince me not to give up on this kumbaya a while back. Nah. that. Get out the way or get rolled over. Simple. These players are actually trying to work with you to fix the problems in this country. They’re asking for you help. The goal should outweigh the means, but since they don’t and never have, ** it. Get it how you live.
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08-13-2018, 01:07 PM	#40
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Just so we're clear, I don't bear you any ill will. Even though we disagree, and even though I do think you're kind of a racist, I don't think you're a bad guy. And I realize that at this point I've probably made you angry, and you could care less about whether I think you're "good" or "bad" but I feel it's important to clarify.