NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

saintfan · 08-16-2018, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Thanks for the time you put into your answer and actually watching the video. He is a rapper and is also a very successful stock broker. I'm not so sure about his situation being apples to moon however. NWA was held in high esteem for their style of music. Jackson went into another universe in the late 80's with his, so much so that he was dropped while NWA was exploited for money. He had huge brass ones for the songs he put out in that time. He was cut by his employer for expressing himself.

If you wouldn't mind, here is one of his earlier songs. It's worth a listen, especially around 2:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7id-PmlycxE

I don’t have a problem with protest. Protest is protected in our Constitution for the best of reasons. I don’t get upset when people have different views than me.

I do get upset when someone is disingenuous. I love a good debate and learn lots from them. Generally speaking if I am going to engage I have done my homework. I don’t have much respect for those who do not.

The rapper you posted is clearly not an idiot, but his thoughts aren’t original. He is repeating a mantra that’s pretty common and half baked, so to speak. And I can clearly see this in his vague responses to the questions. He doesn’t want you to try to change his mind. He is closed to any thoughts or ideas outside his very narrow window.

And I promise you, nobody is going to hear him elaborate with much intelligence on why “political fear” is responsible for everything. He will walk away before he allows you to expose his thoughts or lack there of. That is what people like that do. They’re a dime a dozen in the Bay Area. It is frustrating as hell to lead a thirsty man to the water only to watch him refuse to drink.

08-16-2018, 12:23 PM	#35
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Thanks for the time you put into your answer and actually watching the video. He is a rapper and is also a very successful stock broker. I'm not so sure about his situation being apples to moon however. NWA was held in high esteem for their style of music. Jackson went into another universe in the late 80's with his, so much so that he was dropped while NWA was exploited for money. He had huge brass ones for the songs he put out in that time. He was cut by his employer for expressing himself. If you wouldn't mind, here is one of his earlier songs. It's worth a listen, especially around 2:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7id-PmlycxE I don’t have a problem with protest. Protest is protected in our Constitution for the best of reasons. I don’t get upset when people have different views than me. I do get upset when someone is disingenuous. I love a good debate and learn lots from them. Generally speaking if I am going to engage I have done my homework. I don’t have much respect for those who do not. The rapper you posted is clearly not an idiot, but his thoughts aren’t original. He is repeating a mantra that’s pretty common and half baked, so to speak. And I can clearly see this in his vague responses to the questions. He doesn’t want you to try to change his mind. He is closed to any thoughts or ideas outside his very narrow window. And I promise you, nobody is going to hear him elaborate with much intelligence on why “political fear” is responsible for everything. He will walk away before he allows you to expose his thoughts or lack there of. That is what people like that do. They’re a dime a dozen in the Bay Area. It is frustrating as hell to lead a thirsty man to the water only to watch him refuse to drink.
	C'mon Man... Last edited by saintfan; 08-16-2018 at 02:37 PM..