NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

lee909 · 08-13-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

What are your thoughts on fixing black on black violence in inner cities which far out weigh white police abuse and also black police abuse?

Is there a solution? It does not seem like anyone cares much about it. Assuming you will direct it towards white people causing it but most of their elected officials in those districts are black, have been for decades but they can't seem to get it under control.

Without living there it looks from the outside like a serios issue of little options and urban overcrowding leading to people having to do wrong to get by in the older days. Once that sets in i think its hard to escape from as it passes generation to generation. You look at any major city that suffered from poor prospects and people need to feed families and will do what they need to. This often starts leading to the neighbourhood turning bad,absent parents,or parents hooked on various vices. Its a nasty slippry slope that takes hold and once it has a grip seems hard to escape.

I know from family members who lived in Belfast during tbe Troubles that you had no choice but to side with 'your people',you didn't talk to the police,you kept what you saw to yourself and you hid things if asked'. That gripped Ireland for 30 years and its only slowly recovering in most areas. Now put that on a scale of what 80-100 years with added oppression,no civil rights,racist attitudes still present (even if they are dying out (imo) then its a expensive hole to fill in and get people not just on their feet but with a future that they can see and options infront of them. The ability to get a education and to plan a life would help

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Without living there it looks from the outside like a serios issue of little options and urban overcrowding leading to people having to do wrong to get by in the older days. Once that sets in i think its hard to escape from as it passes generation to generation. You look at any major city that suffered from poor prospects and people need to feed families and will do what they need to. This often starts leading to the neighbourhood turning bad,absent parents,or parents hooked on various vices. Its a nasty slippry slope that takes hold and once it has a grip seems hard to escape.

I know from family members who lived in Belfast during tbe Troubles that you had no choice but to side with 'your people',you didn't talk to the police,you kept what you saw to yourself and you hid things if asked'. That gripped Ireland for 30 years and its only slowly recovering in most areas. Now put that on a scale of what 80-100 years with added oppression,no civil rights,racist attitudes still present (even if they are dying out (imo) then its a expensive hole to fill in and get people not just on their feet but with a future that they can see and options infront of them. The ability to get a education and to plan a life would help

I see why we were allies in the 1600’s. However short that allyship was.

08-13-2018, 08:52 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by Beastmode What are your thoughts on fixing black on black violence in inner cities which far out weigh white police abuse and also black police abuse? Is there a solution? It does not seem like anyone cares much about it. Assuming you will direct it towards white people causing it but most of their elected officials in those districts are black, have been for decades but they can't seem to get it under control. Without living there it looks from the outside like a serios issue of little options and urban overcrowding leading to people having to do wrong to get by in the older days. Once that sets in i think its hard to escape from as it passes generation to generation. You look at any major city that suffered from poor prospects and people need to feed families and will do what they need to. This often starts leading to the neighbourhood turning bad,absent parents,or parents hooked on various vices. Its a nasty slippry slope that takes hold and once it has a grip seems hard to escape. I know from family members who lived in Belfast during tbe Troubles that you had no choice but to side with 'your people',you didn't talk to the police,you kept what you saw to yourself and you hid things if asked'. That gripped Ireland for 30 years and its only slowly recovering in most areas. Now put that on a scale of what 80-100 years with added oppression,no civil rights,racist attitudes still present (even if they are dying out (imo) then its a expensive hole to fill in and get people not just on their feet but with a future that they can see and options infront of them. The ability to get a education and to plan a life would help Crusader, AsylumGuido and rezburna like this.
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08-13-2018, 09:06 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by lee909 Without living there it looks from the outside like a serios issue of little options and urban overcrowding leading to people having to do wrong to get by in the older days. Once that sets in i think its hard to escape from as it passes generation to generation. You look at any major city that suffered from poor prospects and people need to feed families and will do what they need to. This often starts leading to the neighbourhood turning bad,absent parents,or parents hooked on various vices. Its a nasty slippry slope that takes hold and once it has a grip seems hard to escape. I know from family members who lived in Belfast during tbe Troubles that you had no choice but to side with 'your people',you didn't talk to the police,you kept what you saw to yourself and you hid things if asked'. That gripped Ireland for 30 years and its only slowly recovering in most areas. Now put that on a scale of what 80-100 years with added oppression,no civil rights,racist attitudes still present (even if they are dying out (imo) then its a expensive hole to fill in and get people not just on their feet but with a future that they can see and options infront of them. The ability to get a education and to plan a life would help I see why we were allies in the 1600’s. However short that allyship was.