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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Last year SP picked Hill over Winston. Why the sudden change of heart? He had plenty of time to make the change to Winston and instead, he chose to stick with Hill. IMO Payton is grasping for straws praying Winston ...

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Old 02-16-2021, 08:59 AM   #31
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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

Last year SP picked Hill over Winston. Why the sudden change of heart? He had plenty of time to make the change to Winston and instead, he chose to stick with Hill. IMO Payton is grasping for straws praying Winston can keep the Saints above water. I think the Saints future is in the draft, not currently on the roster. Hill can be a cheaper bridge than Winston.
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Old 02-16-2021, 11:15 AM   #32
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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

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Last year SP picked Hill over Winston. Why the sudden change of heart? He had plenty of time to make the change to Winston and instead, he chose to stick with Hill. IMO Payton is grasping for straws praying Winston can keep the Saints above water. I think the Saints future is in the draft, not currently on the roster. Hill can be a cheaper bridge than Winston.
Two likely reasons. The first is that he gave Hill, based on a prior promise, his shot when Brees went down and it was obvious there were some flaws in those outings. Second is that Payton, unlike us, has gotten to see Winston for a year in meetings and on the practice field.

Either could have swayed Payton. Or, he could just be doing a puff-up job on Winston to get him a better offer somewhere else to get a compensatory pick. I mean really who knows?

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Old 02-16-2021, 01:41 PM   #33
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I am really settling on the idea of Winston under center next year. Payton can probably get him to be at least a decent QB. Maybe even better. Here's to hoping that Sean can fix stupid.
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Old 02-16-2021, 07:36 PM   #34
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I am really settling on the idea of Winston under center next year. Payton can probably get him to be at least a decent QB. Maybe even better. Here's to hoping that Sean can fix stupid.
Why do you call him “stupid”? Serious question here, what exactly is it that makes you think he is “stupid”? From an unbiased, academic evaluation..., he (Wonderlik of 27) and Drew Brees (Wonderlik of 28) are roughly equivalent from an intellectual point of view.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

I truly don’t get the argument that Drew Brees is quick, sharp as a tack, while Winston is “stupid” and needs to be “CSP fixed”.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:06 AM   #35
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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

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Why do you call him “stupid”? Serious question here, what exactly is it that makes you think he is “stupid”? From an unbiased, academic evaluation..., he (Wonderlik of 27) and Drew Brees (Wonderlik of 28) are roughly equivalent from an intellectual point of view.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

I truly don’t get the argument that Drew Brees is quick, sharp as a tack, while Winston is “stupid” and needs to be “CSP fixed”.

Do a quick search on Winston and you'll find evidence stupid behavior. He's been accused of rape and theft among other things--before coming to New Orleans. I'm hopeful that he's working to be a better man and I'm all about people that work on their character to grow in life.


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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

If Payton sticks with Hill as the heir apparent, then Winston is surely going to leave in free agency. Payton is putting his best foot forward to try to keep Winston at something close to last year's rate and give the team more options to work with. I think the QB situation could still be wide open going into June and July.
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Do a quick search on Winston and you'll find evidence stupid behavior. He's been accused of rape and theft among other things--before coming to New Orleans. I'm hopeful that he's working to be a better man and I'm all about people that work on their character to grow in life.


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Those things supposedly happened before going to Tampa, as well. From all accounts he was a model citizen the whole time he has been in the NFL. I'd imagine most of us had at least a few incidents in college that would qualify as "stupid".
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I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or
2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?

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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

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I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or
2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?
I'd like to see Winston get a shot.

As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.
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I'd like to see Winston get a shot.

As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.
Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ?
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