Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-17-2021, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If Payton sticks with Hill as the heir apparent, then Winston is surely going to leave in free agency. Payton is putting his best foot forward to try to keep Winston at something close to last year's rate and give the team more options to work with. I think the QB situation could still be wide open going into June and July.

Payton's doing a piss poor job of it then. One's market value doesn't stay down by gushing about the guy's talent and talking about how much you want to sign him.

I certainly hope that folks understand that last year was an internship for Winston. One doesn't hire the intern into the company at the same rate as they were paid for the internship.

Take a look at the cap/cash numbers for QBs in 2020: https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/

Of course they are all over the place. But there are a few common buckets:

1. Rookie contracts (Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Mayfield)
2. Backups (Shaub, Keenum, McCoy, Daniel)
3. Bridge (Fitzpatrick, Taylor)
4. Veteran starters on 2nd or later contract (pretty much everyone one the list from Prescott down to Bridgewater)

I think I finally figured out that most Saints fans think that Winston is going to end up in category 3 and should be paid as such. I believe that Winston is going to join category 4 with the others. As you can see the salaries and cap numbers for the most part start in the mid $20 millions range.

Unfortunately, I also think that means that the Saints will not be able to retain Winston's services. And I do understand being leery about gambling big money. Indianapolis is literally looking for their 4th QB after Luck retired, Brissett flamed out, and Rivers retired too after paying each of them upwards of $25 million a year.

SFIAH

02-17-2021, 01:30 PM	#15
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by neugey If Payton sticks with Hill as the heir apparent, then Winston is surely going to leave in free agency. Payton is putting his best foot forward to try to keep Winston at something close to last year's rate and give the team more options to work with. I think the QB situation could still be wide open going into June and July. Payton's doing a piss poor job of it then. One's market value doesn't stay down by gushing about the guy's talent and talking about how much you want to sign him. I certainly hope that folks understand that last year was an internship for Winston. One doesn't hire the intern into the company at the same rate as they were paid for the internship. Take a look at the cap/cash numbers for QBs in 2020: https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/ Of course they are all over the place. But there are a few common buckets: 1. Rookie contracts (Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Mayfield) 2. Backups (Shaub, Keenum, McCoy, Daniel) 3. Bridge (Fitzpatrick, Taylor) 4. Veteran starters on 2nd or later contract (pretty much everyone one the list from Prescott down to Bridgewater) I think I finally figured out that most Saints fans think that Winston is going to end up in category 3 and should be paid as such. I believe that Winston is going to join category 4 with the others. As you can see the salaries and cap numbers for the most part start in the mid $20 millions range. Unfortunately, I also think that means that the Saints will not be able to retain Winston's services. And I do understand being leery about gambling big money. Indianapolis is literally looking for their 4th QB after Luck retired, Brissett flamed out, and Rivers retired too after paying each of them upwards of $25 million a year. SFIAH jnormand likes this.
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