Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

Boston Saint · 02-17-2021, 10:36 AM

I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or
2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?

stickman · 02-17-2021, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or
2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?

I'd like to see Winston get a shot.

As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.

Boston Saint · 02-17-2021, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

I'd like to see Winston get a shot.

As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.

Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ?

stickman · 02-17-2021, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ?

If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system.

If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem?

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2021, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system.

If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem?

That's exactly what happened when the Chargers acquired Philip Rivers in the first round (via trade). A guy named Brees stepped it up.

stickman · 02-17-2021, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's exactly what happened when the Chargers acquired Philip Rivers in the first round (via trade). A guy named Brees stepped it up.

True. What would they have done if Brees hadn't gotten hurt? They would have had to trade someone. If I remember correctly Brees was an all-pro by this point. Would they have just cut him?

K Major · 02-17-2021, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

True. What would they have done if Brees hadn't gotten hurt? They would have had to trade someone. If I remember correctly Brees was an all-pro by this point. Would they have just cut him?

Kind of off topic but IIRC, Brees wasn't Sean Payton's first choice …

He was actually trying to make a trade for Tony Romo. Sometimes the best decisions are the ones you don't make.

Boston Saint · 02-17-2021, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system.

If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem?

Not really a problem, but you are wasting a first round pick on a guy that’s not seeing the field. I’d rather use that first round pick on a CB, LB, WR that has a good chance of playing than a bench warmer. That’s why I don’t think you can commit to Winston and draft a QB first round.

02-17-2021, 10:36 AM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or 2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?
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02-17-2021, 10:43 AM	#2
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,812	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or 2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts? I'd like to see Winston get a shot. As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.

02-17-2021, 11:20 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by stickman I'd like to see Winston get a shot. As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea. Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ?

02-17-2021, 01:03 PM	#4
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,812	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by Boston Saint Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ? If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system. If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem?

02-17-2021, 01:17 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by stickman If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system. If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem? That's exactly what happened when the Chargers acquired Philip Rivers in the first round (via trade). A guy named Brees stepped it up. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-17-2021, 01:20 PM	#6
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,812	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's exactly what happened when the Chargers acquired Philip Rivers in the first round (via trade). A guy named Brees stepped it up. True. What would they have done if Brees hadn't gotten hurt? They would have had to trade someone. If I remember correctly Brees was an all-pro by this point. Would they have just cut him?

02-17-2021, 01:25 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by stickman True. What would they have done if Brees hadn't gotten hurt? They would have had to trade someone. If I remember correctly Brees was an all-pro by this point. Would they have just cut him? Kind of off topic but IIRC, Brees wasn't Sean Payton's first choice … He was actually trying to make a trade for Tony Romo. Sometimes the best decisions are the ones you don't make.

02-17-2021, 02:13 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by stickman If he's the best player on the teams list, then yes. Give Winston a chance to prove the job should be his and the rookie the chance to learn the system. If the problem you end up with is that Winston is playing so well he's keeping a first round draft choice on the bench, do you really have a problem? Not really a problem, but you are wasting a first round pick on a guy that’s not seeing the field. I’d rather use that first round pick on a CB, LB, WR that has a good chance of playing than a bench warmer. That’s why I don’t think you can commit to Winston and draft a QB first round.