Saints Facing More Discipline

Rugby Saint II · 02-11-2021, 01:03 PM

I wear a mask and condom when required! They both can save your life and protect others! If you will wear a condom then I don't see why your civil liberties are being violated being required to wear a mask.

I realize that some people aren't in the dating game anymore but when you were would you wear a condom if you were with a high risk group? Nuff' Said!

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

My initial post on here had nothing to do with mind control. If someone else earlier on this thread brought that up then that’s a different story. Again, note my use of PPE and you will note I don’t fit in your category of being ignorant.
Look, peace on this subject. My issue is when you, or others, try to win every argument or point on an issue. I am guilty of this as well. I honestly am trying
To change that myself. Look at my Jim Mora quote on my signature. That’s deeper than it seems and has the basic idea of having an open mind or not. Someone can disagree with you and not be an idiot. Making a point against someone doesn’t always have to be an insulting thing. Again, I point the finger at myself as well. If we are all on a Saints Fan site and can’t get along, then something is wrong.

The mind control indeed belonged to someone else. You missed that context. We are in agreeance on this issue. I was addressing someone who is diametrically opposed to our stance, however.

As I also point out earlier (not in reference to you whatsoever) is that one can be ignorant without being an idiot. In fact, ignorance comes from the Latin ignorare "to ignore, be ignorant of". The act of ignoring facts is ignorance. Being unaware of a fact is also ignorance. Closely related, but slightly different in context. Neither, however are dependent upon intelligence, or lack there of.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I wear a mask and condom when required! They both can save your life and protect others! If you will wear a condom then I don't see why your civil liberties are being violated being required to wear a mask.

I realize that some people aren't in the dating game anymore but when you were would you wear a condom if you with with a high risk group? Nuff' Said!

Perhaps they should use a condom on their nose if they refuse to cover it with their mask.

Boston Saint · 02-11-2021, 01:34 PM

True. Yet IMO, your nature lends itself to be one of affirming your own (obviously educated) position as opposed to being open to what others have to say. But hey, that’s just me, I may be wrong, and I like and respect you on the site. Can’t wait to get my hurricane from you or buy your Long Island next time I’m in town.

Rugby Saint II · 02-11-2021, 01:49 PM

Well, this is about discipline for wearing masks not the right to choose. So, I'm one of the people who supported it when the Saints got caught for their locker room celebration. The rules are in place for a reason. For the Saints to give Godhell the chance to screw us again is just irresponsible.

We currently have five picks I believe and Godhell is likely taking one or maybe even two away. He likes to put us in the public eye to say "See this. We won't tolerate this." He obviously he has a vendetta against the Saints and he's not done yet.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

True. Yet IMO, your nature lends itself to be one of affirming your own (obviously educated) position as opposed to being open to what others have to say. But hey, that’s just me, I may be wrong, and I like and respect you on the site. Can’t wait to get my hurricane from you or buy your Long Island next time I’m in town.

I'm not "in town" either. We usually try to book a cruise out of the port there the week before or after a home game. I'll let you know when we do. Or my wife may have a conference there which is even better since I get to play while she's in lectures. But I will collect on that Long Island sooner or later.

And it is near impossible for me to be open to something that is, at worst, blatantly wrong, or at the very least, somewhat misguided. My years spent in software design stressed the importance of that. On the other hand, the years I spent in the media world opened my eyes to the blatantly wrong and misguided.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Well, this is about discipline for wearing masks not the right to choose. So, I'm one of the people who supported it when the Saints got caught for their locker room celebration. The rules are in place for a reason. For the Saints to give Godhell the chance to screw us again is just irresponsible.

We currently have five picks I believe and Godhell is likely taking one or maybe even two away. He likes to put us in the public eye to say "See this. We won't tolerate this." He obviously he has a vendetta against the Saints and he's not done yet.

As of right now we only officially have three - 1st, 2nd, and 4th rounders. The projection for compensatory picks is one each in round 3 and round 6.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 02:50 PM

Two masks, snug fit reduces COVID-19 spread, U.S. study shows

Reuters
MANAS MISHRA
February 10, 2021, 9:27 AM

(Reuters) - Making sure a mask fits snugly on the face and use of two masks is likely to significantly reduce a person's exposure to the coronavirus, laboratory experiments described by U.S. health officials on Wednesday showed.

The U.S. Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in January conducted experiments to see how well wearing a cloth mask over a three-ply medical procedure mask, and knotting the ear loops of a surgical mask and then tucking the excess material close to the face, protects against COVID-19.

They found that both these methods helped reduce the exposure to potentially infected aerosols by more than 90% in laboratory simulations.

The data also showed that wearing a mask helped reduce exposure to aerosol particles that were the size of droplets that spread COVID-19, when compared to wearing no mask at all.

The experiments highlight that "masks work, and they work best when they have a good fit and are worn correctly," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky told reporters.

Walesnky added that re-useable devices known as mask-fitters were also an option to improve a mask's fit.

Results from one experiment demonstrated that the un-knotted medical procedure mask alone blocked 42.0% of the particles from a simulated cough, and the cloth mask alone blocked 44.3%.

The double mask combination blocked 92.5% of the cough particles.

In another experiment, the CDC tried to simulate the spread of COVID-19 during breathing when one or both people are properly masked. In the first scenario with only the source of the aerosols wearing a mask, they found coronavirus exposure was reduced by 82.2% when double-masking, and 62.9% with a snug fitting, knotted and tucked surgical mask.

When the source and receiver of simulated breathing aerosols were both fitted with double masks, or knotted and tucked medical masks, the exposure of the receiver was reduced 96.4% and 95.9%, respectively, the experiments found.

With more highly contagious virus variants circulating, CDC medical officer John Brooks told the Washington Post, "whatever we can do to improve the fit of a mask to make it work better, the faster we can end this pandemic.”

gosaints1 · 02-11-2021, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point.

That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it.

Boston Saint · 02-11-2021, 05:40 PM

So...Morestead is likely gone, right? Too bad. He was a hell of a punter and I hate to see him go. Cheaper options are available though.

02-11-2021, 01:03 PM	#61
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline I wear a mask and condom when required! They both can save your life and protect others! If you will wear a condom then I don't see why your civil liberties are being violated being required to wear a mask. I realize that some people aren't in the dating game anymore but when you were would you wear a condom if you were with a high risk group? Nuff' Said!

02-11-2021, 01:09 PM	#62
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by Boston Saint My initial post on here had nothing to do with mind control. If someone else earlier on this thread brought that up then that’s a different story. Again, note my use of PPE and you will note I don’t fit in your category of being ignorant. Look, peace on this subject. My issue is when you, or others, try to win every argument or point on an issue. I am guilty of this as well. I honestly am trying To change that myself. Look at my Jim Mora quote on my signature. That’s deeper than it seems and has the basic idea of having an open mind or not. Someone can disagree with you and not be an idiot. Making a point against someone doesn’t always have to be an insulting thing. Again, I point the finger at myself as well. If we are all on a Saints Fan site and can’t get along, then something is wrong. The mind control indeed belonged to someone else. You missed that context. We are in agreeance on this issue. I was addressing someone who is diametrically opposed to our stance, however. As I also point out earlier (not in reference to you whatsoever) is that one can be ignorant without being an idiot. In fact, ignorance comes from the Latin ignorare "to ignore, be ignorant of". The act of ignoring facts is ignorance. Being unaware of a fact is also ignorance. Closely related, but slightly different in context. Neither, however are dependent upon intelligence, or lack there of. Boston Saint likes this.

02-11-2021, 01:10 PM	#63
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I wear a mask and condom when required! They both can save your life and protect others! If you will wear a condom then I don't see why your civil liberties are being violated being required to wear a mask. I realize that some people aren't in the dating game anymore but when you were would you wear a condom if you with with a high risk group? Nuff' Said! Perhaps they should use a condom on their nose if they refuse to cover it with their mask. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-11-2021, 01:34 PM	#64
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline True. Yet IMO, your nature lends itself to be one of affirming your own (obviously educated) position as opposed to being open to what others have to say. But hey, that’s just me, I may be wrong, and I like and respect you on the site. Can’t wait to get my hurricane from you or buy your Long Island next time I’m in town.

02-11-2021, 01:49 PM	#65
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Well, this is about discipline for wearing masks not the right to choose. So, I'm one of the people who supported it when the Saints got caught for their locker room celebration. The rules are in place for a reason. For the Saints to give Godhell the chance to screw us again is just irresponsible. We currently have five picks I believe and Godhell is likely taking one or maybe even two away. He likes to put us in the public eye to say "See this. We won't tolerate this." He obviously he has a vendetta against the Saints and he's not done yet.
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02-11-2021, 02:33 PM	#66
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by Boston Saint True. Yet IMO, your nature lends itself to be one of affirming your own (obviously educated) position as opposed to being open to what others have to say. But hey, that’s just me, I may be wrong, and I like and respect you on the site. Can’t wait to get my hurricane from you or buy your Long Island next time I’m in town. I'm not "in town" either. We usually try to book a cruise out of the port there the week before or after a home game. I'll let you know when we do. Or my wife may have a conference there which is even better since I get to play while she's in lectures. But I will collect on that Long Island sooner or later. And it is near impossible for me to be open to something that is, at worst, blatantly wrong, or at the very least, somewhat misguided. My years spent in software design stressed the importance of that. On the other hand, the years I spent in the media world opened my eyes to the blatantly wrong and misguided. Boston Saint likes this.
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02-11-2021, 02:38 PM	#67
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Well, this is about discipline for wearing masks not the right to choose. So, I'm one of the people who supported it when the Saints got caught for their locker room celebration. The rules are in place for a reason. For the Saints to give Godhell the chance to screw us again is just irresponsible. We currently have five picks I believe and Godhell is likely taking one or maybe even two away. He likes to put us in the public eye to say "See this. We won't tolerate this." He obviously he has a vendetta against the Saints and he's not done yet. As of right now we only officially have three - 1st, 2nd, and 4th rounders. The projection for compensatory picks is one each in round 3 and round 6.

02-11-2021, 02:50 PM	#68
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Two masks, snug fit reduces COVID-19 spread, U.S. study shows Reuters MANAS MISHRA February 10, 2021, 9:27 AM (Reuters) - Making sure a mask fits snugly on the face and use of two masks is likely to significantly reduce a person's exposure to the coronavirus, laboratory experiments described by U.S. health officials on Wednesday showed. The U.S. Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in January conducted experiments to see how well wearing a cloth mask over a three-ply medical procedure mask, and knotting the ear loops of a surgical mask and then tucking the excess material close to the face, protects against COVID-19. They found that both these methods helped reduce the exposure to potentially infected aerosols by more than 90% in laboratory simulations. The data also showed that wearing a mask helped reduce exposure to aerosol particles that were the size of droplets that spread COVID-19, when compared to wearing no mask at all. The experiments highlight that "masks work, and they work best when they have a good fit and are worn correctly," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky told reporters. Walesnky added that re-useable devices known as mask-fitters were also an option to improve a mask's fit. Results from one experiment demonstrated that the un-knotted medical procedure mask alone blocked 42.0% of the particles from a simulated cough, and the cloth mask alone blocked 44.3%. The double mask combination blocked 92.5% of the cough particles. In another experiment, the CDC tried to simulate the spread of COVID-19 during breathing when one or both people are properly masked. In the first scenario with only the source of the aerosols wearing a mask, they found coronavirus exposure was reduced by 82.2% when double-masking, and 62.9% with a snug fitting, knotted and tucked surgical mask. When the source and receiver of simulated breathing aerosols were both fitted with double masks, or knotted and tucked medical masks, the exposure of the receiver was reduced 96.4% and 95.9%, respectively, the experiments found. With more highly contagious virus variants circulating, CDC medical officer John Brooks told the Washington Post, "whatever we can do to improve the fit of a mask to make it work better, the faster we can end this pandemic.”
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02-11-2021, 05:24 PM	#69
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point. That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it. iceshack149 and jnormand like this.
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02-11-2021, 05:40 PM	#70
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline So...Morestead is likely gone, right? Too bad. He was a hell of a punter and I hate to see him go. Cheaper options are available though. jnormand likes this.