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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by gosaints1 That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t ...

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Old 02-11-2021, 06:49 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 View Post
That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it.
Not quite right, my friend.

The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something else out there". Their problem was that they didn't take it seriously enough. This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly.

Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures.

Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears.


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Old 02-11-2021, 06:57 PM   #72
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So...Morestead is likely gone, right? Too bad. He was a hell of a punter and I hate to see him go. Cheaper options are available though.
I would imagine he wants to remain. He has raised his family here.
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Old 02-11-2021, 06:58 PM   #73
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..."whatever we can do to improve the fit of a mask to make it work better, the faster we can end this pandemic.”
There are differing opinions:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7546829/

“Surgical mask (SM) wearing has been shown to be effective in reducing ARI among healthcare workers. However, the effectiveness of SM in reducing ARI in the non-healthcare settings remains unclear.”

And that is a surgical mask..., not a cloth diaper on one’s face. There is no dogmatic truth here. Biased tests will always create biased results. Florida is open, no mask mandate, no shutdowns, and is doing no worse than any other states that are completely shut down. And trust me, if this virus were truly devastating..., why is football being played? Along with baseball, hockey, basketball, etc... Thousands upon thousands of unmasked ppl, differing states, just descended upon Tampa. NFL didn’t care, lol, heck, Roger Goodell wasn’t even wearing his mask. So obviously it’s not that big of a deal for the NFL.
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Old 02-11-2021, 07:00 PM   #74
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You need serious help, my friend.

The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something something else out there". This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly.

Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures.

Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears.

People are still afraid of the cold?

If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest.

99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%.

Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths.

What is this thread about again?

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Old 02-11-2021, 07:05 PM   #75
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 View Post
There are differing opinions:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7546829/

“Surgical mask (SM) wearing has been shown to be effective in reducing ARI among healthcare workers. However, the effectiveness of SM in reducing ARI in the non-healthcare settings remains unclear.”

And that is a surgical mask..., not a cloth diaper on one’s face. There is no dogmatic truth here. Biased tests will always create biased results. Florida is open, no mask mandate, no shutdowns, and is doing no worse than any other states that are completely shut down. And trust me, if this virus were truly devastating..., why is football being played? Along with baseball, hockey, basketball, etc... Thousands upon thousands of unmasked ppl, differing states, just descended upon Tampa. NFL didn’t care, lol, heck, Roger Goodell wasn’t even wearing his mask. So obviously it’s not that big of a deal for the NFL.
Fortunately you are in the minority. Keep living in your little world. Nobody is going to tell you what to do. THAT is the whole issue. You know it. You admitted it.

Once again, glad you are a member of the Tiny Herd.
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Old 02-11-2021, 07:07 PM   #76
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People are still afraid of the cold?

If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest.

99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%.

Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths.

What is this thread about again?
Survival rates? Ask those who survive how it affects their lives moving forward. Ask Rugby who has learned he most likely will never ref again.
I get it. Y'all just basically don't give a sh!t.

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Old 02-11-2021, 07:25 PM   #77
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Good point. But he’d have to take a big pay cut..league minimum to stay
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Old 02-11-2021, 07:29 PM   #78
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And don't feed me crap that people that are dying would have died anyway. Tell that to our friend Foreverfan that died from COVID complications. I doubt the common flu or cold would have cost him HIS life.

Minimalize this if you wish, but to yourselves. Not to those of us that really care.

I'm sorry, but I have seen far too many people be medically affected by this who were otherwise healthy. Maybe if you had experienced a death or two you might be more concerned yourselves.
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Old 02-11-2021, 07:31 PM   #79
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Good point. But he’d have to take a big pay cut..league minimum to stay
I take it this was a reply in the other thread.

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Old 02-11-2021, 07:36 PM   #80
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I don't think comparing the Spanish Flu is relevant at this point, we are talking 100 years ago.
Of course 3% of the population died, medicine and health care was nowhere near what it is now and the human race, through vaccinations or basic evolution, become immune to things that would have killed people 100's of years ago.

The thing that irritates me, is that a large portion of the population use the excuse that it heavily affects the older generation as if that somehow makes it okay.

As a 29 year old man, sure I'm confident I'll get over Covid if I got it, however I don't think it's fair that some idiot who doesn't take it seriously, could potentially give me the virus and I accidentally pass it to my "At-risk loved ones," not knowing I had it due to being asymptomatic.

Thats the truly selfish part.

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