Saints Facing More Discipline

gosaints1 · 02-11-2021, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

BINGO!

Just as I stated, "nobody's going to tell ME what to do". Getting COVID because of not wearing a mask, if it happens, is all on you. However, passing it on to another because you refuse to wear a mask is also on you with far greater ramifications. If that person dies and you were to blame that is something that you'd have to live with.

Trying to justify your hatred of being told what to do with untruths, however, is counterproductive.

I have no hatred towards anybody, nor anything. Or I try not to, lol. Individual liberty should be unassailable. If you’re worried about your health, then triple mask, but that’s on you. If you believe that every otherwise healthy individual should mask just bc, then that’s plainly nonsensical as we will NEVER take masks off again. There is always somebody somewhere with an autoimmune disorder or an oncology patient in chemo, etc... walking around.

You going to wear a mask forever? Or do you just not care about anything other than yourself? See how that argument plays out?

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

I have no hatred towards anybody, nor anything. Or I try not to, lol. Individual liberty should be unassailable. If you’re worried about your health, then triple mask, but that’s on you. If you believe that every otherwise healthy individual should mask just bc, then that’s plainly nonsensical as we will NEVER take masks off again. There is always somebody somewhere with an autoimmune disorder or an oncology patient in chemo, etc... walking around.

You going to wear a mask forever? Or do you just not care about anything other than yourself? See how that argument plays out?

I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point.

gosaints1 · 02-11-2021, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point.

That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it.

Not quite right, my friend.

The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something else out there". Their problem was that they didn't take it seriously enough. This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly.

Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures.

Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears.

blackangold · 02-11-2021, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You need serious help, my friend.

The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something something else out there". This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly.

Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures.

Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears.

People are still afraid of the cold?

If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest.

99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%.

Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths.

What is this thread about again?

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

People are still afraid of the cold?

If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest.

99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%.

Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths.

What is this thread about again?

Survival rates? Ask those who survive how it affects their lives moving forward. Ask Rugby who has learned he most likely will never ref again.
I get it. Y'all just basically don't give a sh!t.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 06:29 PM

And don't feed me crap that people that are dying would have died anyway. Tell that to our friend Foreverfan that died from COVID complications. I doubt the common flu or cold would have cost him HIS life.

Minimalize this if you wish, but to yourselves. Not to those of us that really care.

I'm sorry, but I have seen far too many people be medically affected by this who were otherwise healthy. Maybe if you had experienced a death or two you might be more concerned yourselves.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2021, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

People are still afraid of the cold?

If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest.

99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%.

Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths.

What is this thread about again?

If they had the science and the aggressive approach we have had to date including all mandates then their death rates may have been proportionally low.

They were incredibly far less informed back then than we are today. Today it is only a minority of those that are either ignorant to the dangers or that care nothing about others that continue to put others in danger today than they experienced back then.

02-11-2021, 09:05 AM	#1
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido BINGO! Just as I stated, "nobody's going to tell ME what to do". Getting COVID because of not wearing a mask, if it happens, is all on you. However, passing it on to another because you refuse to wear a mask is also on you with far greater ramifications. If that person dies and you were to blame that is something that you'd have to live with. Trying to justify your hatred of being told what to do with untruths, however, is counterproductive. I have no hatred towards anybody, nor anything. Or I try not to, lol. Individual liberty should be unassailable. If you’re worried about your health, then triple mask, but that’s on you. If you believe that every otherwise healthy individual should mask just bc, then that’s plainly nonsensical as we will NEVER take masks off again. There is always somebody somewhere with an autoimmune disorder or an oncology patient in chemo, etc... walking around. You going to wear a mask forever? Or do you just not care about anything other than yourself? See how that argument plays out? iceshack149 and jnormand like this.
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02-11-2021, 09:15 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by gosaints1 I have no hatred towards anybody, nor anything. Or I try not to, lol. Individual liberty should be unassailable. If you’re worried about your health, then triple mask, but that’s on you. If you believe that every otherwise healthy individual should mask just bc, then that’s plainly nonsensical as we will NEVER take masks off again. There is always somebody somewhere with an autoimmune disorder or an oncology patient in chemo, etc... walking around. You going to wear a mask forever? Or do you just not care about anything other than yourself? See how that argument plays out? I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point.

02-11-2021, 05:24 PM	#3
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm going to wear a mask until herd immunity is reached (I have ten Saints masks that I rotate through cleaning cycles) and the likelihood of contracting or spreading the virus is minimal. The vaccines are vital in reaching this point. That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it. iceshack149 and jnormand like this.
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02-11-2021, 05:49 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by gosaints1 That’s because you are a member of the “herd”, you know the ones that will stampede and follow one another off a cliff. But, the argument is if you don’t wear a mask then you don’t care about anyone else. And that logic fails, bc if you believe that nonsense, then you will NEVER take your mask off. There are many more immune system compromised and chemo patients, COPD, etc... folks running around in public, that one could imagine. COVID is just one bug, that’s it, there is always something else out there. Heck, over the last decade 30-60 thousand ppl die from the flu every year. And we have a vaccine for that! Several million more die from lower respiratory infections annually. If you truly believe you want to help your fellow man via wearing one, or ten masks on your face simultaneously, then by all means do so, but you should never take them off, ever. Or else you don’t care about your fellow man. You wearing them only during this one bug proves it. Not quite right, my friend. The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something else out there". Their problem was that they didn't take it seriously enough. This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly. Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures. Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears.
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02-11-2021, 06:00 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You need serious help, my friend. The last virus that affected this many people occurred over 100 years ago. This isn't some pansy assed seasonal flu. This is the real thing again. That last time humanity "masked up" was 100 years ago with the Spanish Flu. The estimates are that around 500 million, or at that time a third of the entire population of Earth were infected. Over 50 million people died. This isn't just "something something else out there". This is projecting along the lines of the Spanish Flu. The difference is that we have science on our side this time. Science and knowledge of the past. We can get ahead of this by addressing it properly. Hopefully "your" herd is tiny and allows the rest of mankind to handle this situation with appropriate measures. Keep wearing that tin-foil, dude. It fits you well, it appears. People are still afraid of the cold? If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest. 99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%. Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths. What is this thread about again? iceshack149, jnormand and st thomas like this.
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02-11-2021, 06:07 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by blackangold People are still afraid of the cold? If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest. 99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%. Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths. What is this thread about again? Survival rates? Ask those who survive how it affects their lives moving forward. Ask Rugby who has learned he most likely will never ref again. I get it. Y'all just basically don't give a sh!t.

02-11-2021, 06:29 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline And don't feed me crap that people that are dying would have died anyway. Tell that to our friend Foreverfan that died from COVID complications. I doubt the common flu or cold would have cost him HIS life. Minimalize this if you wish, but to yourselves. Not to those of us that really care. I'm sorry, but I have seen far too many people be medically affected by this who were otherwise healthy. Maybe if you had experienced a death or two you might be more concerned yourselves. darksoul35 and K Major like this.

02-11-2021, 06:39 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Saints Facing More Discipline Originally Posted by blackangold People are still afraid of the cold? If people want to wear a mask, then go for it. If people want to wear panties on their head, be my guest. 99.8% survival rate isn't something to be scared of unless your older than 70 or have a pre-existing condition. For non impacted groups the survival rate is over 99.9%. Poor example on the Spanish flu, higher mortality rate and much higher across all demographics including children. Spanish flu killed 3% of the population in 1918. If covid was comparable we would see 234,000,000 deaths. What is this thread about again? If they had the science and the aggressive approach we have had to date including all mandates then their death rates may have been proportionally low. They were incredibly far less informed back then than we are today. Today it is only a minority of those that are either ignorant to the dangers or that care nothing about others that continue to put others in danger today than they experienced back then.