I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

K Major · 02-08-2023, 10:50 AM

Same as Papz ^^^.

K Major · 02-08-2023, 11:00 AM

So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade.

Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out.

I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract.

I'm just a couch GM though

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SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Good points. That said, if the price is right, I wouldn't mind taking a flier. I certainly wouldn't want to spend a lot of draft capital and pay him a bloated salary. Hopefully we don't try to bid against ourselves here. I don't have a lot of faith in the front office right now.

Originally Posted by K Major

So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade.

Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out.

I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract.

I'm just a couch GM though

https://twitter.com/i/status/1623298904383971328

He's a better bridge QB than what we have in the QB room right now. At least that's the way I look at it. 4th or 5th rounder at most, IMHO. And the Faiders eat some salary, maybe 50%. Then it's a win/win for all. If Carr blossoms, he gets a new contract in year 2-3. He he doesn't we hopefully have a young QB or two on a rookie contract.

We could bring Bridgewater back to do the same thing for less $.

rezburna · 02-08-2023, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade.

Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out.

I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract.

I'm just a couch GM though

https://twitter.com/i/status/1623298904383971328

I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He's a better bridge QB than what we have in the QB room right now. At least that's the way I look at it. 4th or 5th rounder at most, IMHO. And the Faiders eat some salary, maybe 50%. Then it's a win/win for all. If Carr blossoms, he gets a new contract in year 2-3. He he doesn't we hopefully have a young QB or two on a rookie contract.

We could bring Bridgewater back to do the same thing for less $.

He'd be more than a bridge. He's WAY more talented than a Bridgewater and and is under contract through the end of 2025. At only 31 years old he easily has another eight years or so in his prime. If we are not willing to commit to him I'd just as soon pass on him altogether. This could be another Drew Brees type move and set us up at QB until 2030 or so.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis.

I agree that a 3rd would be a steal for what could be a franchise QB for the next seven or eight years. Although, I'd pass on any earlier round QB and just pick up one later hoping we can get a backup type that may eventually develop into something more ... possibly future trade bait much like the Patriots did for years under Brady.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 11:52 AM

A Twitter post from Derek's brother, Darren Carr.

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SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He'd be more than a bridge. He's WAY more talented than a Bridgewater and and is under contract through the end of 2025. At only 31 years old he easily has another eight years or so in his prime. If we are not willing to commit to him I'd just as soon pass on him altogether. This could be another Drew Brees type move and set us up at QB until 2030 or so.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree that a 3rd would be a steal for what could be a franchise QB for the next seven or eight years. Although, I'd pass on any earlier round QB and just pick up one later hoping we can get a backup type that may eventually develop into something more ... possibly future trade bait much like the Patriots did for years under Brady.

That's why you don't extend him until he proves it on the field .

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

That's why you don't extend him until he proves it on the field .

The three years remaining on his current contract should give us plenty of time to see him prove it. Of course, things change if he gets cut.

Rugby Saint II · 02-08-2023, 12:32 PM

Basically, it boils down to if we want Derek Carr we are either going to give up draft capital and/or spend in free agency. I'm not willing to spend money or invest high draft capital in him. Take that draft pick and find a quarterback or two on a rookie contract so we can get under the cap.

02-08-2023, 10:50 AM	#111
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Same as Papz ^^^.

02-08-2023, 11:00 AM	#112
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade. Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out. I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract. I'm just a couch GM though Twitter jnormand, neugey, leilung and 1 others like this.

02-08-2023, 11:23 AM	#113
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by papz Good points. That said, if the price is right, I wouldn't mind taking a flier. I certainly wouldn't want to spend a lot of draft capital and pay him a bloated salary. Hopefully we don't try to bid against ourselves here. I don't have a lot of faith in the front office right now. Originally Posted by K Major So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade. Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out. I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract. I'm just a couch GM though https://twitter.com/i/status/1623298904383971328 He's a better bridge QB than what we have in the QB room right now. At least that's the way I look at it. 4th or 5th rounder at most, IMHO. And the Faiders eat some salary, maybe 50%. Then it's a win/win for all. If Carr blossoms, he gets a new contract in year 2-3. He he doesn't we hopefully have a young QB or two on a rookie contract. We could bring Bridgewater back to do the same thing for less $.

02-08-2023, 11:28 AM	#114
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major So far, it's already looking like LV and NO have agreed (or close) to compensation for Carr via trade. Anything higher than a 3rd rounder is foolish. Maybe the Raiders eat some of his salary ? After how the Ceedy trade went down, I simply have no idea how this will turn out. I'd prefer a young QB on a rookie contract. I'm just a couch GM though https://twitter.com/i/status/1623298904383971328 I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.

02-08-2023, 11:30 AM	#115
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth He's a better bridge QB than what we have in the QB room right now. At least that's the way I look at it. 4th or 5th rounder at most, IMHO. And the Faiders eat some salary, maybe 50%. Then it's a win/win for all. If Carr blossoms, he gets a new contract in year 2-3. He he doesn't we hopefully have a young QB or two on a rookie contract. We could bring Bridgewater back to do the same thing for less $. He'd be more than a bridge. He's WAY more talented than a Bridgewater and and is under contract through the end of 2025. At only 31 years old he easily has another eight years or so in his prime. If we are not willing to commit to him I'd just as soon pass on him altogether. This could be another Drew Brees type move and set us up at QB until 2030 or so.

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02-08-2023, 11:35 AM	#116
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by rezburna I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis. I agree that a 3rd would be a steal for what could be a franchise QB for the next seven or eight years. Although, I'd pass on any earlier round QB and just pick up one later hoping we can get a backup type that may eventually develop into something more ... possibly future trade bait much like the Patriots did for years under Brady.

02-08-2023, 11:52 AM	#117
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr A Twitter post from Derek's brother, Darren Carr. Twitter SmashMouth likes this.

02-08-2023, 12:03 PM	#118
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by rezburna I saw on Twitter that a lot of people are against sending a 3rd rounder. I actually think that's a steal for Carr. I'd do that and either draft Hooker in the 2nd or another developmental guy in the later rounds. Then I'd completely cut ties with Dalton and Jameis. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He'd be more than a bridge. He's WAY more talented than a Bridgewater and and is under contract through the end of 2025. At only 31 years old he easily has another eight years or so in his prime. If we are not willing to commit to him I'd just as soon pass on him altogether. This could be another Drew Brees type move and set us up at QB until 2030 or so. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree that a 3rd would be a steal for what could be a franchise QB for the next seven or eight years. Although, I'd pass on any earlier round QB and just pick up one later hoping we can get a backup type that may eventually develop into something more ... possibly future trade bait much like the Patriots did for years under Brady. That's why you don't extend him until he proves it on the field .

02-08-2023, 12:11 PM	#119
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth That's why you don't extend him until he proves it on the field . The three years remaining on his current contract should give us plenty of time to see him prove it. Of course, things change if he gets cut.

02-08-2023, 12:32 PM	#120
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Basically, it boils down to if we want Derek Carr we are either going to give up draft capital and/or spend in free agency. I'm not willing to spend money or invest high draft capital in him. Take that draft pick and find a quarterback or two on a rookie contract so we can get under the cap. jnormand and leilung like this.