I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2023, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If Sean Payton or some other innovative offensive mind was here, sure but with Carmichael calling plays ... meh. See 2022 offense. Why the lack of screen plays for a stud RB in AK? Why is Taysom on the sideline when it's 3rd down? SMH

He's way too predictable as a play caller.

Just my random thoughts but hey, I'm just a couch coach/GM .

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K Major · 02-14-2023, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

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FinSaint · 02-14-2023, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If Sean Payton or some other innovative offensive mind was here, sure but with Carmichael calling plays ... meh. See 2022 offense. Why the lack of screen plays for a stud RB in AK? Why is Taysom on the sideline when it's 3rd down? SMH

He's way too predictable as a play caller.

Just my random thoughts but hey, I'm just a couch coach/GM .

Music to my ears... Tank the next season and then start the next season after that with high draft picks, expensive contracts off the books and a new staff running things

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Music to my ears... Tank the next season and then start the next season after that with high draft picks, expensive contracts off the books and a new staff running things

How do you propose we tank when all of the coaches and players will be working their asses off to win as many games as is possible? That concept has always befuddled me.

Personally, I'd rather see us kick ass next season and make a deep run in the playoffs. To each his own, I guess.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2023, 03:05 PM

FinSaint · 02-14-2023, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do you propose we tank when all of the coaches and players will be working their asses off to win as many games as is possible? That concept has always befuddled me.

Personally, I'd rather see us kick ass next season and make a deep run in the playoffs. To each his own, I guess.

I thought it was clear, but to explain it to you... I don't expect the players or coaches to deliberately lose, but if the talent isn't there on either side of the equation, then it follows that they'll lose more games then they'll win.

The premise was that Hill as the QB and Carmichael as the OC wouldn't work, which I stated would be preferable to a 6 to 9 win season with Carr and no chance to advance in the playoffs.

I'd personally rather see the Saints win the SB within the next decade, but to each their own I guess.

neugey · 02-14-2023, 03:43 PM

Why is Carr getting cut taking so long, literally up to the last minute? Are the Raiders that ticked off at him?

K Major · 02-14-2023, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Why is Carr getting cut taking so long, literally up to the last minute? Are the Raiders that ticked off at him?

It just happened.

Per Adam Schefter.

neugey · 02-14-2023, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

It just happened.

Per Adam Schefter.

It would have been hilarious if there was a technical issue and the Raiders didn't get their cut in on time.

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I thought it was clear, but to explain it to you... I don't expect the players or coaches to deliberately lose, but if the talent isn't there on either side of the equation, then it follows that they'll lose more games then they'll win.

The premise was that Hill as the QB and Carmichael as the OC wouldn't work, which I stated would be preferable to a 6 to 9 win season with Carr and no chance to advance in the playoffs.

I'd personally rather see the Saints win the SB within the next decade, but to each their own I guess.

I honestly can't understand why anyone expects LESS wins than we had last season. We had a backup QB virtually all season long playing behind an offensive line that was decimated by injuries. We had our three starting WR's miss a combined 24 games. The defense was among the very best in the league, however, and there's little reason to expect any regression on that side of the ball.

It makes sense that we would fill some perceived holes via free agency and address others in the draft. There's already a solid bit of talent on both sides of the ball. The other three teams in the division are no more poised to do any damage than us this season. All three have major questions at QB and have had extensive turnover in the coaching ranks.

Yes, I too would like to see the Saints win a Super Bowl in the next decade. Going into the gutter first is not an avenue that I would expect to guarantee anything.

I guess we'll just have to see how things play out and hope for the best, don't you agree?

02-14-2023, 02:41 PM	#241
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major If Sean Payton or some other innovative offensive mind was here, sure but with Carmichael calling plays ... meh. See 2022 offense. Why the lack of screen plays for a stud RB in AK? Why is Taysom on the sideline when it's 3rd down? SMH He's way too predictable as a play caller. Just my random thoughts but hey, I'm just a couch coach/GM . Is there a place to register for the couch coach/ GM course? Is it online? SmashMouth and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Is there a place to register for the couch coach/ GM course? Is it online? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major If Sean Payton or some other innovative offensive mind was here, sure but with Carmichael calling plays ... meh. See 2022 offense. Why the lack of screen plays for a stud RB in AK? Why is Taysom on the sideline when it's 3rd down? SMH He's way too predictable as a play caller. Just my random thoughts but hey, I'm just a couch coach/GM . Music to my ears... Tank the next season and then start the next season after that with high draft picks, expensive contracts off the books and a new staff running things darksoul35 and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by FinSaint Music to my ears... Tank the next season and then start the next season after that with high draft picks, expensive contracts off the books and a new staff running things How do you propose we tank when all of the coaches and players will be working their asses off to win as many games as is possible? That concept has always befuddled me. Personally, I'd rather see us kick ass next season and make a deep run in the playoffs. To each his own, I guess.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do you propose we tank when all of the coaches and players will be working their asses off to win as many games as is possible? That concept has always befuddled me. Personally, I'd rather see us kick ass next season and make a deep run in the playoffs. To each his own, I guess. I thought it was clear, but to explain it to you... I don't expect the players or coaches to deliberately lose, but if the talent isn't there on either side of the equation, then it follows that they'll lose more games then they'll win. The premise was that Hill as the QB and Carmichael as the OC wouldn't work, which I stated would be preferable to a 6 to 9 win season with Carr and no chance to advance in the playoffs. I'd personally rather see the Saints win the SB within the next decade, but to each their own I guess. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,724 Blog Entries: 13	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Why is Carr getting cut taking so long, literally up to the last minute? Are the Raiders that ticked off at him? K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by neugey Why is Carr getting cut taking so long, literally up to the last minute? Are the Raiders that ticked off at him? It just happened. Per Adam Schefter.

02-14-2023, 03:53 PM	#249
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,724 Blog Entries: 13	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major It just happened. Per Adam Schefter. It would have been hilarious if there was a technical issue and the Raiders didn't get their cut in on time. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

02-14-2023, 03:58 PM	#250
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by FinSaint I thought it was clear, but to explain it to you... I don't expect the players or coaches to deliberately lose, but if the talent isn't there on either side of the equation, then it follows that they'll lose more games then they'll win. The premise was that Hill as the QB and Carmichael as the OC wouldn't work, which I stated would be preferable to a 6 to 9 win season with Carr and no chance to advance in the playoffs. I'd personally rather see the Saints win the SB within the next decade, but to each their own I guess. I honestly can't understand why anyone expects LESS wins than we had last season. We had a backup QB virtually all season long playing behind an offensive line that was decimated by injuries. We had our three starting WR's miss a combined 24 games. The defense was among the very best in the league, however, and there's little reason to expect any regression on that side of the ball. It makes sense that we would fill some perceived holes via free agency and address others in the draft. There's already a solid bit of talent on both sides of the ball. The other three teams in the division are no more poised to do any damage than us this season. All three have major questions at QB and have had extensive turnover in the coaching ranks. Yes, I too would like to see the Saints win a Super Bowl in the next decade. Going into the gutter first is not an avenue that I would expect to guarantee anything. I guess we'll just have to see how things play out and hope for the best, don't you agree? Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.
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