I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

Sinner · 02-14-2023, 10:00 PM

YAWN...

jcp026 · 02-14-2023, 10:06 PM

It's been a long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking this whole time.

Would you guys approve of, and do you think Baltimore would take, 2024, 2026, 2028 1s, and 1st round pick swaps and 2s in 2025 and 2027 for Lamar?

I know any big move like this is unlikely.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2023, 10:27 PM

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2023, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

It's been a long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking this whole time.

Would you guys approve of, and do you think Baltimore would take, 2024, 2026, 2028 1s, and 1st round pick swaps and 2s in 2025 and 2027 for Lamar?

I know any big move like this is unlikely.

Only picks for the next three draft cycles can be traded. So at this time only picks for the 2023, 2024, and 2025 drafts are eligible for trade. Once the 2023 draft is underway, however, 2026 picks become eligible for trade.

And, no, I wouldn't consider anything like that for Jackson. While he is dynamic, his style of play scares me. I can see him missing tons of time moving forward due to injury.

papz · 02-15-2023, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

It's been a long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking this whole time.

Would you guys approve of, and do you think Baltimore would take, 2024, 2026, 2028 1s, and 1st round pick swaps and 2s in 2025 and 2027 for Lamar?

I know any big move like this is unlikely.

Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen.

Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now.

halloween 65 · 02-15-2023, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen.

Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now.

Exactly right. That's why giving up picks for players ( the 2'fers) always pi$$ed me off. We haven't drafted a so called game changer on the D line at all. Even moving up to get Ingram was a bad move but Payton has always had an ego trip on draft day. Allen has done the same thing his 1st year. Now we're scratching for a quality qb., holes in the O and D with no quality depth. I would trade a few players to help shore up some positions and acquire draft picks for this draft and next. Kamara for two 2nd rounders, Davis for a 2nd,rounder Jordan i(getting long in the tooth) 2nd rounder, Peat for a 7th, I let Thomas walk. There are teams that I feel would give us these picks for these players and allow us to acquire draft capital to help strenghten up the team.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2023, 09:56 AM

K Major · 02-15-2023, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen.

Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now.

All of this ^^^.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2023, 12:31 PM

Mr.Riaton · 02-15-2023, 02:37 PM

This all sounds good on paper but that’s assuming that all the draft picks work out. What happens if they don’t? Then you’ve let go of some known talent to replace with some average players. Our drafting has been good lately, but we still don’t hit on all of them. That’s my main concern. That’s why I want to eventually get out of our cap situation to be able to sign some quality FAs. They don’t always work out either, but I like my odds better with that than relying solely on the draft.

Edit- this is to Halloween’s post.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by jcp026 It's been a long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking this whole time. Would you guys approve of, and do you think Baltimore would take, 2024, 2026, 2028 1s, and 1st round pick swaps and 2s in 2025 and 2027 for Lamar? I know any big move like this is unlikely. Only picks for the next three draft cycles can be traded. So at this time only picks for the 2023, 2024, and 2025 drafts are eligible for trade. Once the 2023 draft is underway, however, 2026 picks become eligible for trade. And, no, I wouldn't consider anything like that for Jackson. While he is dynamic, his style of play scares me. I can see him missing tons of time moving forward due to injury. jcp026 likes this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by jcp026 It's been a long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking this whole time. Would you guys approve of, and do you think Baltimore would take, 2024, 2026, 2028 1s, and 1st round pick swaps and 2s in 2025 and 2027 for Lamar? I know any big move like this is unlikely. Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen. Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now. jcp026, halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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02-15-2023, 09:54 AM	#266
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by papz Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen. Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now. Exactly right. That's why giving up picks for players ( the 2'fers) always pi$$ed me off. We haven't drafted a so called game changer on the D line at all. Even moving up to get Ingram was a bad move but Payton has always had an ego trip on draft day. Allen has done the same thing his 1st year. Now we're scratching for a quality qb., holes in the O and D with no quality depth. I would trade a few players to help shore up some positions and acquire draft picks for this draft and next. Kamara for two 2nd rounders, Davis for a 2nd,rounder Jordan i(getting long in the tooth) 2nd rounder, Peat for a 7th, I let Thomas walk. There are teams that I feel would give us these picks for these players and allow us to acquire draft capital to help strenghten up the team. Rugby Saint II and jcp026 like this.

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02-15-2023, 10:43 AM	#268
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by papz Those NBA type trades wouldn't work in the NFL. It's franchise crippling having to give up that type of compensation and hand out the contract he's looking for. You need to be able to field a larger competitive team. That studs and duds strategy wouldn't work. 2-3 stars on an NBA roster can get you deep in the playoffs. It wouldn't work for the long term viability of an NFL franchise IMO not being able to supplement those players with cheaper high end talent(those draft picks). That Russell Wilson trade was really something else and quite rare to see happen. Can it work for a season or two? Sure. You would have to be on top of your game at every aspect of your coaching, player development, and scouting. That's not us right now. All of this ^^^. jcp026 likes this.

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02-15-2023, 02:37 PM	#270
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr This all sounds good on paper but that’s assuming that all the draft picks work out. What happens if they don’t? Then you’ve let go of some known talent to replace with some average players. Our drafting has been good lately, but we still don’t hit on all of them. That’s my main concern. That’s why I want to eventually get out of our cap situation to be able to sign some quality FAs. They don’t always work out either, but I like my odds better with that than relying solely on the draft. Edit- this is to Halloween’s post.