I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

dizzle88 · 03-01-2023, 11:54 AM

If Carr really wants 35M then thanks but no thanks

Even with the ever-increasing cap, there's no way Carr is worth 10 or 15M more than Brees was.

AsylumGuido · 03-01-2023, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If Carr really wants 35M then thanks but no thanks

Even with the ever-increasing cap, there's no way Carr is worth 10 or 15M more than Brees was.

Brees would be drawing $50 million or more annually today. $35 million today is comparable to $20 million less than ten years ago given cap growth.

Cap today 2023: $224 million
$35 million is 15.65% of 2023 cap

Cap 2014: $133 million
15.65% of 2014 cap is $20.7 million

At $35 per year Carr would be worth $15 million LESS than Brees today.

AsylumGuido · 03-01-2023, 12:09 PM

With Carr it's all going to come down to what he sees as his best fit. There shouldn't be much of a difference in what teams will give him as far as money.

AsylumGuido · 03-01-2023, 12:21 PM

SmashMouth · 03-01-2023, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...95666875842562

Was Andrus Peat present and did they go to Popeyes for Peat's favorite meal?

K Major · 03-01-2023, 12:03 PM

If DCarr signs here great, if he goes elsewhere I can't blame (money) him.

Long term, if the Saints want to compete with the big boys, you gotta start taking chances in the draft @ QB.

See Jacksonville, KC, Philly, Bills, Chargers, Niners, Steelers, and Giants on how you get better as a TEAM & franchise.

BakoSaint · 03-01-2023, 09:44 PM

Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player.

Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way.

BakoSaint · 05-10-2025, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player.

Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

There will be excuses. There will be unexpected injuries. You don't assemble the oldest roster in the league without banking on the ability to blame everything on injuries if it doesn't work out. We will almost certainly make a splash trading up in the draft so we have as little depth and as few talented young players as possible, so if any 30-somethings get hurt we can start journeymen and undrafted free agents in their place and blame the season on that.

March 2023

SmashMouth · 05-10-2025, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

March 2023

Did it help with the cap?

BakoSaint · 05-10-2025, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Did it help with the cap?

Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr If Carr really wants 35M then thanks but no thanks Even with the ever-increasing cap, there's no way Carr is worth 10 or 15M more than Brees was.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,708	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by dizzle88 If Carr really wants 35M then thanks but no thanks Even with the ever-increasing cap, there's no way Carr is worth 10 or 15M more than Brees was. Brees would be drawing $50 million or more annually today. $35 million today is comparable to $20 million less than ten years ago given cap growth. Cap today 2023: $224 million $35 million is 15.65% of 2023 cap Cap 2014: $133 million 15.65% of 2014 cap is $20.7 million At $35 per year Carr would be worth $15 million LESS than Brees today.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,708	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr With Carr it's all going to come down to what he sees as his best fit. There shouldn't be much of a difference in what teams will give him as far as money.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,963 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...95666875842562 Was Andrus Peat present and did they go to Popeyes for Peat's favorite meal?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr If DCarr signs here great, if he goes elsewhere I can't blame (money) him. Long term, if the Saints want to compete with the big boys, you gotta start taking chances in the draft @ QB. See Jacksonville, KC, Philly, Bills, Chargers, Niners, Steelers, and Giants on how you get better as a TEAM & franchise.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,409	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player. Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way.
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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,409	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player. Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way. Originally Posted by BakoSaint There will be excuses. There will be unexpected injuries. You don't assemble the oldest roster in the league without banking on the ability to blame everything on injuries if it doesn't work out. We will almost certainly make a splash trading up in the draft so we have as little depth and as few talented young players as possible, so if any 30-somethings get hurt we can start journeymen and undrafted free agents in their place and blame the season on that. March 2023
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,963 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint March 2023 Did it help with the cap?

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,409	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Did it help with the cap? Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books.
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