I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

rezburna · 02-20-2023, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not sure about the O line but what about Waller, DeVante' Adams, Renfroe & Josh Jacobs at the skilled spots?

IDK, I'm just not expecting the needle to move much with DCarr in New Orleans (assuming he signs). Hopefully, the Saints/Mickey draw the line on compensation.

Waller missed 8 games last year. Renfrow missed 7. Adams had 1,500 yards and 14 TDs. Jacobs had a career year. Raiders defense was ranked like 28th. I’m not convinced Carr is a star but I’m intrigued.

SmashMouth · 02-20-2023, 05:05 PM

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K Major · 02-20-2023, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/derekcarrqb/stat...36209925734402

Championship?

iceshack149 · 02-20-2023, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think we're contenders to be honest. Let's have a look at some of the QB's that were in the playoffs:

Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa got them there. They lost by 3 points to the Bills with Skylar Thompson at QB in the Wild Card round.

Seattle Seahawks: Geno Smith

New York Giants: Daniel Jones

Minnesota Vikings: Kirk Cousins

Baltimore Ravens: Tyler Huntley. One stupid fumble away from winning in the playoffs.

San Francisco 49ers: Brock Purdy

None of these guys are world beaters. 49ers almost went all the way with a 3rd stringer. It's all about health and can you go on a run.

We need to build the interior of this offensive line, grab Carr, and beef up at running back. Moves on the defensive side of the ball would be a nice cherry on top but I don't even think we have to if we can upgrade offensively.

This is a compelling argument. The Saints defense is solid and will hopefully add some players to the line and at DB. The offensive line is above average and they have the skill players to move the ball around the field.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 11:58 AM

Haven't much of anything from the Jets visit.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 12:05 PM

K Major · 02-21-2023, 03:17 PM

Daniel Jones reportedly wants $45M per season

WTH? What has DJones accomplished to command that type of salary?

No telling what DCarr's camp is asking but the Saints shouldn't break the bank either. Get your books in order & continue to draft well.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-21-2023, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Daniel Jones reportedly wants $45M per season

WTH? What has DJones accomplished to command that type of salary?

No telling what DCarr's camp is asking but the Saints shouldn't break the bank either. Get your books in order & continue to draft well.

Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag.

The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable.

That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag.

The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable.

That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time.

SFIAH

Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-21-2023, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense.

The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem.

SFIAH

02-20-2023, 04:33 PM	#331
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,683	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major Not sure about the O line but what about Waller, DeVante' Adams, Renfroe & Josh Jacobs at the skilled spots? IDK, I'm just not expecting the needle to move much with DCarr in New Orleans (assuming he signs). Hopefully, the Saints/Mickey draw the line on compensation. Waller missed 8 games last year. Renfrow missed 7. Adams had 1,500 yards and 14 TDs. Jacobs had a career year. Raiders defense was ranked like 28th. I’m not convinced Carr is a star but I’m intrigued. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,112 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by rezburna I think we're contenders to be honest. Let's have a look at some of the QB's that were in the playoffs: Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa got them there. They lost by 3 points to the Bills with Skylar Thompson at QB in the Wild Card round. Seattle Seahawks: Geno Smith New York Giants: Daniel Jones Minnesota Vikings: Kirk Cousins Baltimore Ravens: Tyler Huntley. One stupid fumble away from winning in the playoffs. San Francisco 49ers: Brock Purdy None of these guys are world beaters. 49ers almost went all the way with a 3rd stringer. It's all about health and can you go on a run. We need to build the interior of this offensive line, grab Carr, and beef up at running back. Moves on the defensive side of the ball would be a nice cherry on top but I don't even think we have to if we can upgrade offensively. This is a compelling argument. The Saints defense is solid and will hopefully add some players to the line and at DB. The offensive line is above average and they have the skill players to move the ball around the field.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,079 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Daniel Jones reportedly wants $45M per season WTH? What has DJones accomplished to command that type of salary? No telling what DCarr's camp is asking but the Saints shouldn't break the bank either. Get your books in order & continue to draft well. SmashMouth likes this.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major Daniel Jones reportedly wants $45M per season WTH? What has DJones accomplished to command that type of salary? No telling what DCarr's camp is asking but the Saints shouldn't break the bank either. Get your books in order & continue to draft well. Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag. The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable. That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time. SFIAH
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02-21-2023, 03:56 PM	#339
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,481	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag. The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable. That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time. SFIAH Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

02-21-2023, 04:25 PM	#340
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark. Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense. The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem. SFIAH papz, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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