I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2023, 10:07 AM

Here is a spotrac.com proposal for a Daniel Jones $40 million a year deal just to show the structure I proposed for Carr and the Saints. Note the low year one cap hit, but Jones would still get $52 million in cash in that first year with only $12.5M counting toward the cap. Subsequent years all carry a roster bonus that can be converted to a signing bonus and further prorated, if need be. That's the Harley/Loomis principle.

SmashMouth · 03-04-2023, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Here is a spotrac.com proposal for a Daniel Jones $40 million a year deal just to show the structure I proposed for Carr and the Saints. Note the low year one cap hit, but Jones would still get $52 million in cash in that first year with only $12.5M counting toward the cap. Subsequent years all carry a roster bonus that can be converted to a signing bonus and further prorated, if need be. That's the Harley/Loomis principle.

https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1632013665976057860

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No thank you.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2023, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

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No thank you.

Welcome to the 21st century, Smash. Twenty short years ago the NFL team caps were $79 million. Today they are $224.8 million. By the end of the decade they'll be over $300 million. This is 2023, not 1993, which by the way predated the first cap in 1994 of $34.6 million.

The CBA mandates that the cap, which is tied to the revenues (mostly broadcast deals) must be applied. Ignore the numbers if they stress you so. The broadcast partners are the ones spending the money.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2023, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

That's what they want you to believe. The NFL and RG think we're fools. We shouldn't let them think that.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What do they want us to believe? You lost me on that one, Smash.

I'm still wondering what you were talking about with this statement, however.

WW_Who_Dat · 03-04-2023, 02:51 PM

Whether they show Carr the money, or not. Sign Dalton, or not. Draft a 3rd or 4th round QB type or pull a rabbit out of the hat. I will still be Saints fan since 67 looking for the promise land 1 or more times before I go to the promise land.

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2023, 02:44 PM

Throwing the Ball to Thomas, Olave, and Shaheem has to look like a pretty nice fit to Carr. If we were to bring in Mike Gesicki at TE it would be hard to beat.

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2023, 06:14 PM

dizzle88 · 03-05-2023, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...29171845902337

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...29181731848195

Lol if that proves to the be the case, then he's obviously learnt nothing from his tenure with the Raiders.

SmashMouth · 03-05-2023, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...29171845902337

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...29181731848195

Good... good... GTFOH Mr. Carr. Jets have your name on their roster. Enjoy the NY media circus.

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2023, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Lol if that proves to the be the case, then he's obviously learnt nothing from his tenure with the Raiders.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Good... good... GTFOH Mr. Carr. Jets have your name on their roster. Enjoy the NY media circus.

Y'all get suckered in so easy by clickbait.

03-04-2023, 10:07 AM	#391
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,491	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Here is a spotrac.com proposal for a Daniel Jones $40 million a year deal just to show the structure I proposed for Carr and the Saints. Note the low year one cap hit, but Jones would still get $52 million in cash in that first year with only $12.5M counting toward the cap. Subsequent years all carry a roster bonus that can be converted to a signing bonus and further prorated, if need be. That's the Harley/Loomis principle. Twitter

03-04-2023, 10:47 AM	#392
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,190 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Here is a spotrac.com proposal for a Daniel Jones $40 million a year deal just to show the structure I proposed for Carr and the Saints. Note the low year one cap hit, but Jones would still get $52 million in cash in that first year with only $12.5M counting toward the cap. Subsequent years all carry a roster bonus that can be converted to a signing bonus and further prorated, if need be. That's the Harley/Loomis principle. https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1632013665976057860 . No thank you. K Major likes this.

03-04-2023, 12:31 PM	#393
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,491	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth . No thank you. Welcome to the 21st century, Smash. Twenty short years ago the NFL team caps were $79 million. Today they are $224.8 million. By the end of the decade they'll be over $300 million. This is 2023, not 1993, which by the way predated the first cap in 1994 of $34.6 million. The CBA mandates that the cap, which is tied to the revenues (mostly broadcast deals) must be applied. Ignore the numbers if they stress you so. The broadcast partners are the ones spending the money.

03-04-2023, 12:32 PM	#394
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,491	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth That's what they want you to believe. The NFL and RG think we're fools. We shouldn't let them think that. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What do they want us to believe? You lost me on that one, Smash. I'm still wondering what you were talking about with this statement, however.

03-04-2023, 02:51 PM	#395
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,491	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Throwing the Ball to Thomas, Olave, and Shaheem has to look like a pretty nice fit to Carr. If we were to bring in Mike Gesicki at TE it would be hard to beat. Twitter

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03-05-2023, 06:38 PM	#398
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...29171845902337 https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...29181731848195 Lol if that proves to the be the case, then he's obviously learnt nothing from his tenure with the Raiders. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,190 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...29171845902337 https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...29181731848195 Good... good... GTFOH Mr. Carr. Jets have your name on their roster. Enjoy the NY media circus. K Major likes this.

03-05-2023, 08:26 PM	#400
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,491	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by dizzle88 Lol if that proves to the be the case, then he's obviously learnt nothing from his tenure with the Raiders. Originally Posted by SmashMouth Good... good... GTFOH Mr. Carr. Jets have your name on their roster. Enjoy the NY media circus. Y'all get suckered in so easy by clickbait.