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rezburna 02-08-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969408)
Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it?

This. Go QB crazy. I’d bring three new QB’s into the organization next year.

Carr
Hooker
Bennett

neugey 02-08-2023 05:44 PM

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I'm wondering if Mickey is thinking about striking a deal for Carr now, so he doesn't get cut by Raiders and go to free agency where he could select another team over us, especially for financial reasons. It does make sense, because Carr is pretty much all by himself on Tier 2 of all available non-rookie QB's ... Lamar is alone on Tier 1 and basically everyone else (Dalton, Bridgewater, Brissett, etc.) is on Tier 3 or lower. Gut is telling me we pull the trigger and he doesn't get to free agency. Mickey loves renegotiating as we go to navigate the cap concerns, the whole buy-now-pay-later mentality (for better or worse).

halloween 65 02-08-2023 05:48 PM

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I like McCee, big qb. will have to develop but reminds me of Big Ben
Duggan-i just like his style of play, tough guy, gunslinger
McCall- my favorite to develop good size, accurate as he!! and can run
Haener is my sleeper pick at qb. Farve traits but not a big qb
All these guys should be from the 2nd to the late 4th not killing us on #1. Lots of cushion this year on qb.'s

AsylumGuido 02-08-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 969435)
I'm wondering if Mickey is thinking about striking a deal for Carr now, so he doesn't get cut by Raiders and go to free agency where he could select another team over us, especially for financial reasons. It does make sense, because Carr is pretty much all by himself on Tier 2 of all available non-rookie QB's ... Lamar is alone on Tier 1 and basically everyone else (Dalton, Bridgewater, Brissett, etc.) is on Tier 3 or lower. Gut is telling me we pull the trigger and he doesn't get to free agency. Mickey loves renegotiating as we go to navigate the cap concerns, the whole buy-now-pay-later mentality (for better or worse).

Don't forget that Carr has a no trade clause in his contract and he has to okay any trade. The final decision has to come down to him. We need to sell him now on his future with us.

neugey 02-08-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969437)
Don't forget that Carr has a no trade clause in his contract and he has to okay any trade. The final decision has to come down to him. We need to sell him now on his future with us.


Agreed, but two things are working in our favor for him to permit the trade - (1) he has a pretty good contract right now and might want it continue rather than risk next deal will be lesser in term and dollars. Coming off a down-year, now may not be a good time to hit the market and (2) he's played for DA before.


Oh and (3) he'd instantly be the best QB in the division.

K Major 02-08-2023 06:39 PM

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Good take from Matt.


halloween 65 02-08-2023 06:41 PM

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Gonna need a TE and some fresh legged rb's for Carr.
Michael Mayer( Michael Meyers) TE-Notre Dame
Zach Charbonnette-rb- UCLA
Kenny McIntosh-rb- Georgia
Tyjae Spears- rb- Tulane
I threw in a G also
Jarrett Patterson- plug and play
Trade Kamara for a pick and go.

Mr.Riaton 02-08-2023 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969441)

He makes some really good points, but I don’t necessarily agree with comparing Carr to a 32 year old Dalton…to many variables to make it a fair assessment imo. If we get a rejuvenated Carr that’s motivated and ready to redeem himself then it’ll be great. Its definitely a gamble. I do not under any circumstances want to trade for him. Let him hit free agency and offer a fair contract that is appealing to both sides and if he chooses another team instead then it is what it is. We can look to the draft for a qb and continue to build this team

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969441)

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 969444)
He makes some really good points, but I don’t necessarily agree with comparing Carr to a 32 year old Dalton…to many variables to make it a fair assessment imo. If we get a rejuvenated Carr that’s motivated and ready to redeem himself then it’ll be great. Its definitely a gamble. I do not under any circumstances want to trade for him. Let him hit free agency and offer a fair contract that is appealing to both sides and if he chooses another team instead then it is what it is. We can look to the draft for a qb and continue to build this team

Matt was all in for Deshawn Watson last year. That would have been the worst in Saints history, with all due respect.

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 09:25 PM

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