Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969396)

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969400)

I originally wanted Derek Carr to come in because I had hoped he would be able to take the New Orleans Saints strong core to the playoffs in a division championship, but then I thought about a small rebuild where we bring in our quarterback of the future and around him with our extra capital. I am definitely open to Derek Carr and the short-term potential he offers.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969403)

The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969395)

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969396)

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 969399)

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969403)

The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 969399)

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 969410)

I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot.

Yikes!

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 969416)

Restructuring would be promised in the trade. He knows he is not worth what he’s being paid. Backload the new contract until this cap mess clears up

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969380)

Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ?

Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31.

We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on.

We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett.