I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

SmashMouth · 03-07-2023, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

First things first. We need to give Derek Carr time in the pocket. O'Cyrus Torrence would be ideal to solidify the interior of the O-line.

But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?!

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2023, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?!

And he has the ability and smarts to move in the pocket. But Dalton was able to get the ball out fast. It's just that he quickly got the ball out for a two yard gain when you needed five for the 1st. I lost track of how many times he did that.

Rugby Saint II · 03-08-2023, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?!

I know you are being facetious Smash. Nonetheless, Carr needs time for his receivers to get open unless he's hitting MT on a slant. That's almost unstoppable.

BakoSaint · 05-10-2025, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player.

Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

There will be excuses. There will be unexpected injuries. You don't assemble the oldest roster in the league without banking on the ability to blame everything on injuries if it doesn't work out. We will almost certainly make a splash trading up in the draft so we have as little depth and as few talented young players as possible, so if any 30-somethings get hurt we can start journeymen and undrafted free agents in their place and blame the season on that.

March 2023

SmashMouth · 05-10-2025, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

March 2023

Did it help with the cap?

jnormand · 05-10-2025, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

March 2023

Bro did you just repost your old post so you can act like you’re some kind of all knowing NFL wiseman? Lol. Or maybe it was so you could say “I told you so” to people?

Idk. But that’s some funny **** man. Lol.

BakoSaint · 05-10-2025, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Did it help with the cap?

Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books.

SmashMouth · 05-10-2025, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books.

If any of these rookie young QBs work out, we're soon to be in great cap shape.

saintsfan1976 · 05-11-2025, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Put Payton Manning back there. Won't matter if the O line isn't more consistent.

Since we're reposting quotes that make us look smart.. lol

leilung · 05-12-2025, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Since we're reposting quotes that make us look smart.. lol

Oh, that petty crystal ball!

03-07-2023, 10:01 AM	#431
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,794 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II First things first. We need to give Derek Carr time in the pocket. O'Cyrus Torrence would be ideal to solidify the interior of the O-line. But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?!

03-07-2023, 11:49 AM	#432
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?! And he has the ability and smarts to move in the pocket. But Dalton was able to get the ball out fast. It's just that he quickly got the ball out for a two yard gain when you needed five for the 1st. I lost track of how many times he did that. bobdog86 likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth But.... they said he could read quickly and deliver even more quickly ?!?! I know you are being facetious Smash. Nonetheless, Carr needs time for his receivers to get open unless he's hitting MT on a slant. That's almost unstoppable.

05-10-2025, 02:58 PM	#434
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player. Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way. Originally Posted by BakoSaint There will be excuses. There will be unexpected injuries. You don't assemble the oldest roster in the league without banking on the ability to blame everything on injuries if it doesn't work out. We will almost certainly make a splash trading up in the draft so we have as little depth and as few talented young players as possible, so if any 30-somethings get hurt we can start journeymen and undrafted free agents in their place and blame the season on that. March 2023
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint March 2023 Bro did you just repost your old post so you can act like you’re some kind of all knowing NFL wiseman? Lol. Or maybe it was so you could say “I told you so” to people? Idk. But that’s some funny **** man. Lol. bobdog86 and BakoSaint like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Did it help with the cap? Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books. SmashMouth likes this.
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05-10-2025, 10:57 PM	#438
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,794 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint Yes it helps with the cap long term. How much of that help comes in 2025 or 2026 is hard to say. Anything that is not carrying Carr’s $50m salary helps with 2026 and with not having any desd cap from him in 2027. My estimate is $6 million cap relief in 2025, $33 million cap relief in 2026, and $41m cap reflief in 2027 compared to letting him play out his contract. Total $80m savings from $30m 2025 payback and $50m 2026 salary off the books. If any of these rookie young QBs work out, we're soon to be in great cap shape.

05-11-2025, 08:37 AM	#439
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Put Payton Manning back there. Won't matter if the O line isn't more consistent. Since we're reposting quotes that make us look smart.. lol

05-12-2025, 07:18 AM	#440
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,426	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Since we're reposting quotes that make us look smart.. lol Oh, that petty crystal ball!