Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

03-16-2021, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Sean in the past made Kerry Collins better, made Quincy Carter into a real QB, and had only one loss without Drew in the last two seasons.

Don't forget Tony Romo. Sean believed in his skill set when Parcells was ready to move on from him.

Turned into a solid NFL QB with good coaching.

The Dude · 03-16-2021, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I can see it, even though I know Hill would never beat Winston in an open competition. He’s just so loved.

I think Payton gave Hill his obligatory shot last year. He owes him nothing. He knows Winston is the guy. Won’t know if he’s a suitable replacement until we see him in action but I’m more optimistic with him at QB than I would be if it were anyone else. We got the best guy we can afford and the fact Winston took another one year deal says a lot.

AsylumGuido · 03-16-2021, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I think Payton gave Hill his obligatory shot last year. He owes him nothing. He knows Winston is the guy. Won’t know if he’s a suitable replacement until we see him in action but I’m more optimistic with him at QB than I would be if it were anyone else. We got the best guy we can afford and the fact Winston took another one year deal says a lot.

The pundits are already predicting a record number of one year deals this off-season. We know the cap is going to skyrocket next season based upon the new broadcast rights predictions alone, the question is by how much. Thus the one year deals. It helps us as it gives us the test year with Winston, as well.

LivnaLieTimay · 03-16-2021, 10:31 AM

I like this deal; low risk, high reward. I hope Winston is our starting QB week 1.

The Dude · 03-16-2021, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

I'm no fan of the guy's character. But you have to admit it's a bit exciting considering the physical limitations we've seen in Drew the past 2-3 years. I hope he learned from Drew. If what I'm reading is right, the base salary is 5.5 mil. I'm sure Jameis will do all he can to reach those incentives. You have to wonder if we really do draft a QB early this year.

I wasn’t either but as I said earlier the fact he was willing to take a one year deal this early in FA tells me he’s humble and is willing to work for it. I get the feeling he’s matured a lot. We will see.

TheOak · 03-16-2021, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I believe in Jameis Winston. I believe in his arm talent, football IQ, and work ethic. I believe in him as a leader as well. He might be the most talented QB to ever put on the uniform. Of course, Brees in his prime is the better QB. That’s without question, but Winston has the skill level to really shock the world. Right now, I believe Winston is a better QB than Brees.

I have a slightly different take, not on Winstons capabilities but on his possible ceiling. I don’t recall anyone suspecting Drew Brees would become why he did while he was with San Diego which changes the formulation for me. Maybe.... just maybe Sean Payton was the factor that put Drew over the top and just maybe he can take Winston there as well?

As far as for public opinion, more than one B&G member didn’t want or believe in Drew Brees in 2006.

The ONLY things that gives me pause are the fact that his contract is 1 year and no other team in need scooped him up with a cheap multi year contract... I won’t speculate as to why, smarter football people that me are making those decisions I just recognize them as flags.

Cruize · 03-16-2021, 10:41 AM

I hope he earns 5.5 and never sees the field. Complete waste of money.

AsylumGuido · 03-16-2021, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I have a slightly different take, not on Winstons capabilities but on his possible ceiling. I don’t recall anyone suspecting Drew Brees would become why he did while he was with San Diego which changes the formulation for me. Maybe.... just maybe Sean Payton was the factor that put Drew over the top and just maybe he can take Winston there as well?

As far as for public opinion, more than one B&G member didn’t want or believe in Drew Brees in 2006.

The ONLY things that gives me pause are the fact that his contract is 1 year and no other team in need scooped him up with a cheap multi year contract... I won’t speculate as to why, smarter football people that me are making those decisions I just recognize them as flags.

I would say that with the abnormally low cap this year and the expectations for future caps to explode upward based upon all of the broadcast rights projections (could easily double the existing contracts) in the following years, franchises and agents alike are likely hesitant to lock themselves into long term deals at this time. That's why one year deals are going to be more common that ever this off-season. At least that's the opinion of more the one familiar with the inner workings of NFL finances that I have heard over the past few days.

NOLA54 · 03-16-2021, 11:50 AM

Did you know Winston is ranked #29 on the top 100 free agent list and the #2 QB on the same list?
Sean Payton is the quarterback wisperer.

iceshack149 · 03-16-2021, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/g1iI_Zfyp6U

Will he keep Aaron Brooks' old number?

I've thought of Winston as Brooks 2.0 for a while now. That's not a terrible thing. The Saints got their first playoff win with Brooks and Haslett as coach. Payton is a much better coach than Haslett.

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03-16-2021, 10:08 AM	#32
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by rezburna I can see it, even though I know Hill would never beat Winston in an open competition. He’s just so loved. I think Payton gave Hill his obligatory shot last year. He owes him nothing. He knows Winston is the guy. Won’t know if he’s a suitable replacement until we see him in action but I’m more optimistic with him at QB than I would be if it were anyone else. We got the best guy we can afford and the fact Winston took another one year deal says a lot.
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03-16-2021, 10:14 AM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by The Dude I think Payton gave Hill his obligatory shot last year. He owes him nothing. He knows Winston is the guy. Won’t know if he’s a suitable replacement until we see him in action but I’m more optimistic with him at QB than I would be if it were anyone else. We got the best guy we can afford and the fact Winston took another one year deal says a lot. The pundits are already predicting a record number of one year deals this off-season. We know the cap is going to skyrocket next season based upon the new broadcast rights predictions alone, the question is by how much. Thus the one year deals. It helps us as it gives us the test year with Winston, as well.

03-16-2021, 10:31 AM	#34
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal I like this deal; low risk, high reward. I hope Winston is our starting QB week 1.

03-16-2021, 10:38 AM	#35
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by shawnkytonk I'm no fan of the guy's character. But you have to admit it's a bit exciting considering the physical limitations we've seen in Drew the past 2-3 years. I hope he learned from Drew. If what I'm reading is right, the base salary is 5.5 mil. I'm sure Jameis will do all he can to reach those incentives. You have to wonder if we really do draft a QB early this year. I wasn’t either but as I said earlier the fact he was willing to take a one year deal this early in FA tells me he’s humble and is willing to work for it. I get the feeling he’s matured a lot. We will see. st thomas and MarchingOn like this.
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03-16-2021, 10:41 AM	#36
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by rezburna I believe in Jameis Winston. I believe in his arm talent, football IQ, and work ethic. I believe in him as a leader as well. He might be the most talented QB to ever put on the uniform. Of course, Brees in his prime is the better QB. That’s without question, but Winston has the skill level to really shock the world. Right now, I believe Winston is a better QB than Brees. I have a slightly different take, not on Winstons capabilities but on his possible ceiling. I don’t recall anyone suspecting Drew Brees would become why he did while he was with San Diego which changes the formulation for me. Maybe.... just maybe Sean Payton was the factor that put Drew over the top and just maybe he can take Winston there as well? As far as for public opinion, more than one B&G member didn’t want or believe in Drew Brees in 2006. The ONLY things that gives me pause are the fact that his contract is 1 year and no other team in need scooped him up with a cheap multi year contract... I won’t speculate as to why, smarter football people that me are making those decisions I just recognize them as flags. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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03-16-2021, 10:41 AM	#37
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal I hope he earns 5.5 and never sees the field. Complete waste of money. jnormand likes this.
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03-16-2021, 11:45 AM	#38
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by TheOak I have a slightly different take, not on Winstons capabilities but on his possible ceiling. I don’t recall anyone suspecting Drew Brees would become why he did while he was with San Diego which changes the formulation for me. Maybe.... just maybe Sean Payton was the factor that put Drew over the top and just maybe he can take Winston there as well? As far as for public opinion, more than one B&G member didn’t want or believe in Drew Brees in 2006. The ONLY things that gives me pause are the fact that his contract is 1 year and no other team in need scooped him up with a cheap multi year contract... I won’t speculate as to why, smarter football people that me are making those decisions I just recognize them as flags. I would say that with the abnormally low cap this year and the expectations for future caps to explode upward based upon all of the broadcast rights projections (could easily double the existing contracts) in the following years, franchises and agents alike are likely hesitant to lock themselves into long term deals at this time. That's why one year deals are going to be more common that ever this off-season. At least that's the opinion of more the one familiar with the inner workings of NFL finances that I have heard over the past few days.

03-16-2021, 11:50 AM	#39
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Did you know Winston is ranked #29 on the top 100 free agent list and the #2 QB on the same list? Sean Payton is the quarterback wisperer.

03-16-2021, 11:53 AM	#40
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/g1iI_Zfyp6U Will he keep Aaron Brooks' old number? I've thought of Winston as Brooks 2.0 for a while now. That's not a terrible thing. The Saints got their first playoff win with Brooks and Haslett as coach. Payton is a much better coach than Haslett.