Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

03-16-2021, 09:08 PM

Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy.

st thomas · 03-16-2021, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I hope he earns 5.5 and never sees the field. Complete waste of money.

Whoa wow, no chance ah

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st thomas · 03-16-2021, 09:48 PM

Another rookie QB to dominate Payton and Brees , you got it Jamison Winston 2015 thought I’d add that

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saintsfan1976 · 03-17-2021, 05:22 AM

I wish he'd stop putting his fingers in his mouth. I have to remind my 3 year old of that.

subguy · 03-17-2021, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy.

It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

K Major · 03-17-2021, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

What other options do you think the Saints front office should have explored based on our current situation as it pertains to the QB position post Brees & cap ? Maybe trade for Minshew? Fig Newton, Marcus Marriota or roll with Taysom? Or push all your chips forward in drafting a QB in the 1st rd of the upcoming draft?

Unfortunately for us Russ Wilson isn't an option in New Orleans.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-17-2021, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

Why does everyone expect Winston to have exactly the same type of performance as the last time he was a full time starter? Is it because he's on the same team, with the same coaches, the same offensive line, and the same defense?

It took Brady 3/4 of a season to undo the damage in personnel, scheme, and coaching to turn the pirate ship around. There was lots and lots of bad judgement to spread around in the Bucs organization in 2019.

Payton's offense is predicated on have a multi layered passing game, always with an outlet, and simpler half field reads. It's designed to highlight the strengths of the QB and to minimize the weaknesses.

Winston demonstrated in his short stint in the 2nd half of the SF game that dumping the ball off to Kamara is a smart move that he's capable of pulling off.

So, I severely doubt that the Saints are planning on Winston being in the middle to lower tier of QBs in the NFL.

SFIAH

Boston Saint · 03-17-2021, 02:26 PM

As far as talent being lost, there was no way the money offered to T. rex was going to be matched by the Saints, cap or not. Brown, Murray, Jenkins, and Sanders are the ones that hurt most and were most a result of the cap issues. IMO. Let’s see what the team does via draft/signings to address things.

Rugby Saint II · 03-17-2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

As far as talent being lost, there was no way the money offered to T. rex was going to be matched by the Saints, cap or not. Brown, Murray, Jenkins, and Sanders are the ones that hurt most and were most a result of the cap issues. IMO. Let’s see what the team does via draft/signings to address things.

I hope that we get a comp pick for everyone of those but I realize that there is a limit. So it's a good thing that we can't afford expensive free agents. Yes, I know Brown was traded. One of the places we shine is finding up and coming young players who fit the system or just needs good coaching in a fresh environment.

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03-16-2021, 09:18 PM	#62
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by Cruize I hope he earns 5.5 and never sees the field. Complete waste of money. Whoa wow, no chance ah Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-16-2021, 09:48 PM	#63
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Another rookie QB to dominate Payton and Brees , you got it Jamison Winston 2015 thought I’d add that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Boston Saint likes this.

03-17-2021, 05:22 AM	#65
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal I wish he'd stop putting his fingers in his mouth. I have to remind my 3 year old of that. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-17-2021, 06:08 AM	#66
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by The Dude Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy. It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season. Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints. We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season. I hope for the best
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03-17-2021, 11:07 AM	#67
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by subguy It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season. Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints. We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season. I hope for the best What other options do you think the Saints front office should have explored based on our current situation as it pertains to the QB position post Brees & cap ? Maybe trade for Minshew? Fig Newton, Marcus Marriota or roll with Taysom? Or push all your chips forward in drafting a QB in the 1st rd of the upcoming draft? Unfortunately for us Russ Wilson isn't an option in New Orleans. Boston Saint likes this.

03-17-2021, 02:01 PM	#68
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by subguy It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season. Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints. We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season. I hope for the best Why does everyone expect Winston to have exactly the same type of performance as the last time he was a full time starter? Is it because he's on the same team, with the same coaches, the same offensive line, and the same defense? It took Brady 3/4 of a season to undo the damage in personnel, scheme, and coaching to turn the pirate ship around. There was lots and lots of bad judgement to spread around in the Bucs organization in 2019. Payton's offense is predicated on have a multi layered passing game, always with an outlet, and simpler half field reads. It's designed to highlight the strengths of the QB and to minimize the weaknesses. Winston demonstrated in his short stint in the 2nd half of the SF game that dumping the ball off to Kamara is a smart move that he's capable of pulling off. So, I severely doubt that the Saints are planning on Winston being in the middle to lower tier of QBs in the NFL. SFIAH saintfan, gosaints1 and K Major like this.
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03-17-2021, 02:26 PM	#69
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal As far as talent being lost, there was no way the money offered to T. rex was going to be matched by the Saints, cap or not. Brown, Murray, Jenkins, and Sanders are the ones that hurt most and were most a result of the cap issues. IMO. Let’s see what the team does via draft/signings to address things. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-17-2021, 03:33 PM	#70
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by Boston Saint As far as talent being lost, there was no way the money offered to T. rex was going to be matched by the Saints, cap or not. Brown, Murray, Jenkins, and Sanders are the ones that hurt most and were most a result of the cap issues. IMO. Let’s see what the team does via draft/signings to address things. I hope that we get a comp pick for everyone of those but I realize that there is a limit. So it's a good thing that we can't afford expensive free agents. Yes, I know Brown was traded. One of the places we shine is finding up and coming young players who fit the system or just needs good coaching in a fresh environment. Boston Saint likes this.