Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 918445)

It isn't that simple Rugs. What gets players hurt in full pad practice is missing the off-season workouts which should be designed to get players ready to hit. Junior High, High school, and college all do extensive off season workouts leading up to full pad workouts to prevent this by getting joints, tendons, and ligaments in shape for the stress and torque of full practices and games.

Being "in shape" is not being in "football conditioned" as those have two fairly different requirements. The less they do before pads the more injuries you will see especially in the front 7 on either side of the ball.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 918449)

Exactly. I fully expect to see more injuries this year.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 918303)

I realize that DeMaurice Smith let the players negotiate for less time getting ready to play NFL football while giving all the power to Godhell. Football is sloppier to start than it was years ago when coaches ran players in the ground and toughened them up. Now we can't force players to fit the system. More and more players are opting out of voluntary workouts.

I realize that more injuries occur in physical practices but if your not ready for it then playing the game is where you will get hurt if your body is not ready for the punishment. If you were a player for the Saints would you opt out of the chance to build chemistry with your team mates and impress the coaches? Personally, I'd try hard to follow the schedule that Brees used to gain such success. First in and last out of the facilities.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 918450)

More than last year? This year the players have far more access to off-site training facilities which were not open at all last year. They couldn't even go to local high schools or parks to workout. They will have three preseason games as opposed to none like last year.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 918459)

The only player that I’ve see do structural work is Kamara because he does a lot of off balance work. Sleds, straight line running, stadiums, weights, that’s not football conditioning. They would get more football conditioning playing basketball that solo workouts at a field or field house. That gives them strength and stamina but doesn’t condition them for lateral and torsional stresses on ankles, knees, and hips which is why we see so many tweaks and sprains.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 918459)

The only player that I’ve see do structural work is Kamara because he does a lot of off balance work. Sleds, straight line running, stadiums, weights, that’s not football conditioning. They would get more football conditioning playing basketball that solo workouts at a field or field house. That gives them strength and stamina but doesn’t condition them for lateral and torsional stresses on ankles, knees, and hips which is why we see so many tweaks and sprains.

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 918466)

Look like saints are joining the no workout movement


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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 918465)

You'd think that if the Saints were smart, having a real a off season while everyone else is doing stupid virtual training would give them an advantage.

But whatever.