Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints

06-28-2021, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Mismanagement? #WTF?!?

Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl?

Yes, mismanagement. They had just come off of an eleven year stretch with NINE losing seasons! They were going through staff changes left and right. I don't blame Winston for wanting to get out of there.

That IS reality, JP.

Yes, they signed Brady, but they also signed a ton of other free agents. They went all in. Winston wasn't trash. He just wasn't as good as his replacement. Who is, right?

saintsfan1976 · 06-28-2021, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Mismanagement? #WTF?!?

Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl?

To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

AsylumGuido · 06-28-2021, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

Reality is escaping JP in this case.

saintsfan1976 · 06-29-2021, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Reality is escaping JP in this case.

I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion.

gosaints1 · 06-29-2021, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion.

Agreed…, I understand his logic most of the time, even wrt this topic, although I may not agree with those beliefs, they aren’t poorly formed arguments, imvho.

Rugby Saint II · 06-29-2021, 12:24 PM

All we can do is wait and see what Payton can do with whoever wins the job.

Boston Saint · 06-29-2021, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

All we can do is wait and see what Payton can do with whoever wins the job.

And complain about it before hand! 🤪

The Dude · 06-29-2021, 01:41 PM

Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs.
Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime.
I think that’s about where we are.

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2021, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs.
Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime.
I think that’s about where we are.

The defense was horrible in those years. The current defensive squad is light years better than those teams. Both Atlanta and Carolina were also much better than they are today.

Rugby Saint II · 06-29-2021, 02:22 PM

Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.

06-28-2021, 04:52 PM	#51
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mismanagement? #WTF?!? Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl? Yes, mismanagement. They had just come off of an eleven year stretch with NINE losing seasons! They were going through staff changes left and right. I don't blame Winston for wanting to get out of there. That IS reality, JP. Yes, they signed Brady, but they also signed a ton of other free agents. They went all in. Winston wasn't trash. He just wasn't as good as his replacement. Who is, right?
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06-28-2021, 05:02 PM	#52
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mismanagement? #WTF?!? Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl? To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II, gosaints1 and 1 others like this.

06-28-2021, 07:07 PM	#53
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs Reality is escaping JP in this case.

06-29-2021, 06:55 AM	#54
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Reality is escaping JP in this case. I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion. Rugby Saint II, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by The Dude Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs. Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime. I think that’s about where we are. The defense was horrible in those years. The current defensive squad is light years better than those teams. Both Atlanta and Carolina were also much better than they are today. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.