Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs

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K Major · 11-01-2021, 09:29 AM

When you play good special teams & sound defense, you'll always have a chance. Saints have both.

Shout out to my guy again.

Blake Gillikin - 3 punts on yesterday (158 yards/net 144) 63 was the long & 1 inside the 20. He's booming em.

Rsanders24 · 11-01-2021, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Sean obviously doesn’t trust Winston. Completely different offense than we have seen all year once Trevor came in. I feel for Winston. He’s worked so hard to get to where he is and to have this happen against his old team is terrible. I hope it’s not as bad as it looks and he gets back soon. Hopefully Payton will let him off the chain. Until then Trevor it is.

I disagree with that. The game plan dictates the run vs pass ratio. Payton said himself that the game plan today was to be aggressive which you could see based on the number of pass plays called before Winston got hurt. Payton knew they had to score points.

If Payton really didn’t trust Jameis over Trevor then Trevor would be the starter.

The game plan was the same before and after Winston got hurt. Be aggressive and test the TB DBs.

The Dude · 11-01-2021, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I respect Bucs Devan White as a competitor, but he's a borderline dirty NFL player.

Actually, their entire defense went into dirty mode today. As usual, the refs ate a lot of those flags. I thought they were trying to take Trevor out with extracurricular activity.

For those counting at home, we've lost two important players. Taysom Hill (concussion) and Jameis (horse collar) to garbage play by the opposing defense.

They were definitely dirty as hell and were targeting both Qb’s after the whistle. I can’t put too much blame on the refs though. I think we got our fair share of calls that went our way and probably shouldn’t have.

K Major · 11-01-2021, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

They were definitely dirty as hell and were targeting both Qb’s after the whistle. I can’t put too much blame on the refs though. I think we got our fair share of calls that went our way and probably shouldn’t have.

Bucs are a very undisciplined bunch on defense & got outcoached.

Bruce Arians is an overrated HC. Brady has made him look good.

AsylumGuido · 11-01-2021, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bucs are a very undisciplined bunch on defense & got outcoached.

Bruce Arians is an overrated HC. Brady has made him look good.

Absolutely! He has been carried by QB's his whole career and repeatedly attempts to take the credit for any success personally while placing blame on his players when things go south.

cars4dylan · 11-01-2021, 11:38 AM

The post-game presser where Payton makes the point about scoring mindset I don't disagree with entirely.

The problem is you need to run high percentage passes that are essentially running plays that keep the clock going forcing the usage of timeouts by the opponent.

All 3 plays looked like fire drills and were rushed and seemingly low percentage play calls. I'd have to see the plays again to see what was called but it wasn't real organized looking at all. You leave the GOAT with 2 timeouts and a gamble that Def can stop them (like they did) just doesn't seem smart.

I'm more surprised no one mentioned here how Payton noted for 2 straight home games the crowd noise was sort of garbage. Called the Who Date Nation out outright to be louder.

iceshack149 · 11-01-2021, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I respect Bucs Devan White as a competitor, but he's a borderline dirty NFL player.

Actually, their entire defense went into dirty mode today. As usual, the refs ate a lot of those flags. I thought they were trying to take Trevor out with extracurricular activity.

For those counting at home, we've lost two important players. Taysom Hill (concussion) and Jameis (horse collar) to garbage play by the opposing defense.

I came here to say this very thing. They kept getting to the Saints QB after the pass was thrown and would still pop them when they had a chance to pull back.

When they picked up the flag after Suh's late hit I was infuriated.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs When you play good special teams & sound defense, you'll always have a chance. Saints have both. Shout out to my guy again. Blake Gillikin - 3 punts on yesterday (158 yards/net 144) 63 was the long & 1 inside the 20. He's booming em. saintfan, Rsanders24, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs Originally Posted by The Dude Sean obviously doesn’t trust Winston. Completely different offense than we have seen all year once Trevor came in. I feel for Winston. He’s worked so hard to get to where he is and to have this happen against his old team is terrible. I hope it’s not as bad as it looks and he gets back soon. Hopefully Payton will let him off the chain. Until then Trevor it is. I disagree with that. The game plan dictates the run vs pass ratio. Payton said himself that the game plan today was to be aggressive which you could see based on the number of pass plays called before Winston got hurt. Payton knew they had to score points. If Payton really didn’t trust Jameis over Trevor then Trevor would be the starter. The game plan was the same before and after Winston got hurt. Be aggressive and test the TB DBs. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, K Major and 1 others like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs Originally Posted by K Major I respect Bucs Devan White as a competitor, but he's a borderline dirty NFL player. Actually, their entire defense went into dirty mode today. As usual, the refs ate a lot of those flags. I thought they were trying to take Trevor out with extracurricular activity. For those counting at home, we've lost two important players. Taysom Hill (concussion) and Jameis (horse collar) to garbage play by the opposing defense. They were definitely dirty as hell and were targeting both Qb’s after the whistle. I can’t put too much blame on the refs though. I think we got our fair share of calls that went our way and probably shouldn’t have. SmashMouth likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs Originally Posted by The Dude They were definitely dirty as hell and were targeting both Qb’s after the whistle. I can’t put too much blame on the refs though. I think we got our fair share of calls that went our way and probably shouldn’t have. Bucs are a very undisciplined bunch on defense & got outcoached. Bruce Arians is an overrated HC. Brady has made him look good. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

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cars4dylan 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 106	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs The post-game presser where Payton makes the point about scoring mindset I don't disagree with entirely. The problem is you need to run high percentage passes that are essentially running plays that keep the clock going forcing the usage of timeouts by the opponent. All 3 plays looked like fire drills and were rushed and seemingly low percentage play calls. I'd have to see the plays again to see what was called but it wasn't real organized looking at all. You leave the GOAT with 2 timeouts and a gamble that Def can stop them (like they did) just doesn't seem smart. I'm more surprised no one mentioned here how Payton noted for 2 straight home games the crowd noise was sort of garbage. Called the Who Date Nation out outright to be louder.
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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Gutty Win Vs Bucs Originally Posted by K Major I respect Bucs Devan White as a competitor, but he's a borderline dirty NFL player. Actually, their entire defense went into dirty mode today. As usual, the refs ate a lot of those flags. I thought they were trying to take Trevor out with extracurricular activity. For those counting at home, we've lost two important players. Taysom Hill (concussion) and Jameis (horse collar) to garbage play by the opposing defense. I came here to say this very thing. They kept getting to the Saints QB after the pass was thrown and would still pop them when they had a chance to pull back. When they picked up the flag after Suh's late hit I was infuriated. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.