Re: Trevor Siemian
 

Dude was hitting people in the hands all day long, they just couldn't catch ****. If we got decent receiver/TE play, his numbers would have been really good and we would have won the game fairly easy. Instead everyone had butterfingers.

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And yet professional receivers still cant catch the ball when she hits them in their hands, their ****ing hands.

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Really? When did we get professional receivers? :p

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He did his job pretty well considering his previous status. A few key drops keeping us from reveling in the possibility we've found another star QB

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Don't forget to add a whiffed block/fumble by Armstead
and 5 offensive holding penalties

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Right we keep forgetting that Jameis was running the first team Offense and when Trevor came in the Bucs game he was #3 back-up.
As we saw by the 4th quarter of the Falcons game we started to see some completions.
The Saints will need to get it together quickly because the Titans will be a major hurdle.

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Thursday, 11:05. You missed the meeting. They missed the ball. :bng:

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problem this year is the offense-defense has not been on the same page at times, more so the defense with allowing NY and ATL crappy offenses post the point totals they have. Atl has no business scoring 20+, NY had no business scoring 20+, Carolina either, but the Carolina game was bad all around.

thing about Siemian is this, he was the QB after Peyton Manning and when you look at Denvers games post Manning under Siemian, too much similarities with how those games went with how ours is heading.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

When will we see Ian Book.

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Did anyone else know Trevor was invited to the Pro Bowl?
As a backup. I guess it’s nice to know our back up Qb is a Pro Bowl backup lol.
https://milehighsports.com/broncos-q...nvitation/amp/

Who knows, maybe Payton can do something with him. Is he still under contract? If he does well enough maybe he will play himself into some trade value.

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Next year at the very earliest and if we score a vet QB like Russell Wilson possibly never. The only way Book sees the field this year is if we've clinched a specific playoff position (ie. #1 seed - don't see that happening), if we have no shot at the playoffs (definitely don't see that happening), or if a game is totally out of hand (don't see that happening either - either way).

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Mebbe.... Mebbe not.

:popcorn:

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The next four weeks will tell a lot.

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Batten down the hatches it's about to get rough in the Gulf..
Titans
Eagles (bottom feeder breakout game?)
Bills
Cowboys

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If we can manage 2-2 over the next four, give the coaching staff a big Christmas bonus.

:couch:

:bng:

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FYI ...

Trevor will start on Sunday vs Tennessee.

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It's the right call. Probably a lot of dump offs to MI, and he's better suited.

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The only thing I'm dreading is coming in here after we win on Sunday reading all of the Siemian is our future crap. :D

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I sure Taysom is feeling good enough to truck somebody. Missed it big time last week.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

Curtis was hot mic'd saying to Sean; you want me to do what with what.
You gotta be kidding show me Receivers I don't see Receivers here..

Curtis Johnson
Senior Offensive Assistant/Wide Receivers
In his second stint with the Saints, Curtis Johnson enters his eleventh season on the New Orleans staff. Possessing more than 35 years of coaching experience at the collegiate and professional levels, the New Orleans native has had the opportunity to coach some of the game's top receivers, including Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Ted Ginn Jr., Joe Horn, Alshon Jeffery, Andre Johnson, Robert Meachem, Lance Moore, Santana Moss, Michael Thomas and Reggie Wayne.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

What's a real shame is that after 3 games, we should all be talking about how just how well Trevor Siemian is playing for the Saints.

His throws are crisp and on point. He makes good decisions with the football. Takes sacks when he should. IMO, he's better than Jamies.

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You may right. He at least seems competent. And steady.

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No love for Ian Book?

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Can he catch a pass or make a kick? I’ll show him mad love if so.

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Biggest problems in the team is the lack of wr/te and kicking. We could be tied for first in the division. Instead we are in the cusp of not making the playoffs.

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Not from what I've been seeing. Not even close. I've seen far too much hesitation letting open receivers get covered before the ball arrives. I've seen multiple occasions where passes are floated instead of being zipped in there. Any offensive success statistically speaking by Siemian has come late in the game when we have been down by large margins and the defense has gone into a prevent mode.

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Same here. He's not getting enough opportunities in the joker role so he might as well be under center. When he has had the opportunity to pass it has had velocity behind it. I actually think those "off speed" passes that Siemian has been throwing has led to several of those drops we have seen. It's like the receiver is anticipating the ball to already be there when it hasn't yet arrived.

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Me too.

Titans had tape on Trevor and he can't beat the blitz/stunts & thus far he's 0-2 as a starter. Has he lost any games? Nope, but he hasn't won any either. At least Taysom can create something with his legs when things break down.

We need a spark.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

Well, it seems to me the last two losses were not about QB play as much as other aspects. This last loss was mainly due to special teams (missed kicks and fumble) and a good old ref screwing. The Atl loss was dropped passes and again missed kicks as well as D letdowns. Maybe Hill could give a spark. But IMO it’s kinda like switching tires on a car that has no brakes and a bad transmission. The ride ain’t gonna be any smoother.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

Trevor has played great, and could be a future to build around. He, so far, has played better than Winston.

The biggest issue Trevor has is at WR/TE.

We have the worst average separation by pass catchers in the league and are 5th in dropped passes. Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning wouldn't have much success with our WR/TEs.

Trevor threw for 300 2 TDs against one of the best Defenses with ZERO help around him.

The one knock on Trevor... piss poor clock management, that can be improved.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

You are assuming the replaced tires could hold air. The success of WR's is in part dependent upon whom is attempting to get them the ball. I have little doubt we wouldn't be complaining about the WR's if Brees was still delivering the ball. I'm seeing receivers getting open but not having the ball get to them accurately or in a timely manner. Any success seems to be coming when the opposition is in a prevent mode.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

You are clearly watching a different game than me. I will not be surprised to see a change at QB this coming week. What is it with the sudden rash of dropped balls? I shared earlier that I felt the low velocity ball that Siemian throws has to affect the receiver's timing. They are expecting the ball to be in the hands when its arrival is actually a tad later than expected.

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Or maybe the WR's just suck?

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Football_reference.com shows the Saints as having 17 total drops on the season. Kamara leads the team with five drops. (Does that mean Kamara sucks?) Trautman is second with four. Tre'Quan has two drops and nobody else has more than one. This is current through week 10.

I've seen more in the past three weeks with Siemian delivering the ball than in the previous six weeks on the season.

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Well considering that Kamara is around 70% of our total offense, I can't really blame him for having a few more drops.

What's shocking is that Trautman is barely 5 or 10% of our offense and still has nearly as many drops as Kamara does.

I think those stats are incorrect, Kenny Stills has 2 drops in the past 2 weeks alone.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

I remember one, which is what the stats show. Just because a player gets hands on a ball doesn't make it catchable. One definition has a drops as "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort." Trautman's drops are perfect examples.

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Not sure what your point is. That it’s Simeon’s fault? I doubt Brees would be fairing any better with these WRs and TEs. The passing production hasn’t wavered too much between Winston and Simeon. There are plays here and there made but it’s mostly sucked forcing the offense to mostly rely on the RBs and QB scrambling (which got Winston hurt). Hill’s tires have no more air or tread than Simeon’s do. At least not enough to make a difference IMO.

Re: Trevor Siemian
 

Oh, come on. I have no doubt Brees would be doing far, far better with these same WR's and TE's. Winston was also leading the league in TD per pass rate when he got injured at 8.7% while Siemian is currently at 4.8%. Brady is second to Winston thus far at 7.2%.

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