Trevor Siemian
 

Trever Siemian is the guy. He got inserted into the middle of the game, played pretty well considering, and we came out with the win. He just looks better than Winston... looks over the field better and everything. He just needs some practice with the first string. We have a very complicated offense, and some of the mistakes he made were on timing routes and things that can be fixed. A week or 2 of practice and we got someone that I feel can lead us. I'm suddenly incredibly optimistic.

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I wouldn’t say all that now.

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:rofl:

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I'll wait to see how he plays in the next game or 2. He certainly looked good in the first half. 2nd half was on and off again. I was actually thinking we'd lose as soon as Winston went down.

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Well, Trevor is gonna have to get up to speed asap.

Starting to see reports that Jameis season is over. That sucks but hey, it's football.

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I didn’t think Trevor played all that bad, except for the penalty erased INT.
He missed some throws but his accuracy wasn’t terrible.

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His accuracy was in line with Winston. Which means it was not that good. But, he did just get thrown into the game. Let him take snaps with the 1's and see what happens next week.

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Give Nick Foles a call.

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Honestly, I don’t think it matters who our QB is. We don’t have a game changer anymore and Jameis showed that we can win with a game manager. Just get the ball to Kamara and rely on the defense.

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It was all the D tonight. When does hill return?

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Need a bit more than a game manager to make it to the big game, IMHO. Who can throw the deep ball better among the three ? Trevor seemed to find the open intermediate pass catcher .

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I thought he did a good job, but I also though he lacked zip on some of his throws

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At times it looked like he did a better job of reading the defense than both Hill or Winston, other times not so much. Hill will be the starter next week according to Payton. He said if Hill was in tonight Trevor would have still come in after Winston because the game plan was what it was. Going forward Hill will be the guy. I would rather see Trevor at Qb and Hill in his current role but whatever.

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I feel like Semien did well with going through his progressions but lacked both arm talent and mobility.

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Was thinking the same thing, plus having MI back frees up Kamara.

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Sorry to see Winston injured. Feel bad for the guy.

The Saints rallied well behind the QB coming off the bench. I love how Payton didn't mess around with handing off a couple of times, he went straight for the pass.

I would love to have Tua if Miami does the Watson deal.

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What he lacked was confidence in the system. His mobility was fine, he was scrambling out of the pocket, avoiding a lot of sacks. His arm strength is adequate. These are not the most important things to playing QB. The two most important things to playing QB A) Accuracy.. being able to put the ball right where you want, putting it on back shoulder throws, etc... and B) being able to scan the field and find the open receiver. Out of the 3 guys we got. Siemian has the best package. The Saints offense is very complicated. A big portion of his mistakes were on timing routes. We went through a phase in the game where we couldn't score, but that was mostly due to the O-line.. they were really getting to him. We kept passing passing passing. Even if you are only getting a handful of yards, you still have to run to keep them on their heels. Plus this wears on the defense. If Winston is out for the year, I hope we don't go to Hill yet, we have plenty of time if Siemian fails(which he won't) . This guy imo has earned another start and practice with the 1sts.

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I hope we go to Hill. Siemian looked great but he was gifted on a horrific pick in the end zone that could have changed the landscape of the game. I think if we don't prohibit Hill from running, he can do some things that will keep the d off balance.

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The second Taysom Hill is able he'll be the starter and Siemian will be relegated back to the backup role.

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Hill needs to come into games with a run first mentality and let that open up the passing game. They’ll have to play more zone so they can keep their eyes on him, and he’ll have to hit people in those windows. Hopefully wide open windows with the threat of his legs. I liken him to Jalen Hurts moving forward. Less arm strength though. I kinda wanna see Trevor over Hill as well.

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Agreed, but not sure Hill would be an upgrade at QB over Semian.

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I'd like to see what Trevor has also. But with JW's season looking over, I guess we might want to talk to Cam... purely in a back up role.

I'm not feeling like Taysom has the skill set to carry this team as the starter. But hey, SP appears to be the True QB Whisperer, so maybe he can make it happen!

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Not Scam! No!

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There's a reason why Siemian has only started one game since the 2017 season. Taysom has been groomed to be a starter in the Saints offense for several years now. Winston just happened to be a better option, but I am sure Payton sees Hill as clearly the best option moving forward.

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100%. Bucs D started to figure out Siemian in the 2nd half. I think Taysom will surprise us.

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I think we should roll with Trevor. The best thing he did yesterday was spread the ball around. That’s Brees like. He was completing balls to guys that didn’t have a reception in the season.
Hill needs to come in and do his red zone thang. We would’ve had a better shot at TD’s vs FG goals in the red zone yesterday with Hill. Let’s just stop this starting QB talk. The man has a rare skill, just not at QB.

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Lipstick on a pig is still a pig…..Payton can groom Hill all he wants, but at the end of the day he still is wearing the lipstick. He’s better in his “other than QB” roll. At least with Semian, Hill can still do other rolls, which will be limited once he becomes the starter, which I sure CSP will anoint once he’s ready to go.

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Literally, there was no stare down with Trevor. He went through his progressions and that's why some drives were extended. Not to mention that laser he threw to Callaway on third down.

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If you don’t think Hill will be easy to figure your crazy. Big difference coming in to run some razzle dazzle stuff once in a while versus running an offense for 4 quarters. It I’m sure Payton will put him at starter

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Hill as the starting QB doesn't make sense. Especially since he thrives in that jack-of-all-trades role (The man has blocked punts on special teams!) I love Taysom Hill but the fumbles are too much. Siemian is the right choice for Saints QB.


Should I start a poll? :airguitar:

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Yeah, a ten foot one we can use to keep Cam Newton away!

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Lol I'd like to think Payton saw how done Newton was following that SB loss. He's never been the same player since.

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I just don't get the sudden love for Siemian. He did what he is paid to do - be a backup. He has never been more than a serviceable backup. He has only started one game (2019 - 3 for 6 for 3 total yards) since 2017 when he lost his one and only job as a starter while throwing more interceptions (14) than TD's (12).

He was bailed out by the Bucs penalty on an awful pick in the end zone. While I agree that Hill's greatest value comes as that "jack of all trades" player, he remains a far better option at QB than Siemian. I have been listening off and one to NFL radio all day and I have heard nobody say that Siemian should be the starting option. Why? Because they know what Siemian is and isn't. Hell, I bet most of you getting their rocks off on him had no clue who he was before he made our roster. :rolleyes:

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The two of us can play defense against Cam Newton with our 10' poles. We'll stay outside the stadium and poke at him if he comes close. Then we'll wag our fingers and tell him "not in this house!"


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That's ad hominem and you know it.
Nobody "loves" Siemian. We all love Hill, though.

Great job learning your football from the radio. You've got a better understanding of the game than me.

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Heck yeah, don't forget Tacos option.

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And where do you supposedly learn your football? I've followed the pro game for years and found NFL Radio a few years back. You'd be surprised how much you can learn from a station that is dedicated 24 hours a day to the game and doesn't answer to the league itself. Unlike the NFL channel on TV it is not owned by the league and commonly gives unbiased input on the game. I may or may not have a better understanding of the game than you, but I make a concerted effort to keep learning as much as I can.

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Not sure anyone really loves Semian as an option……not sure where you got that, maybe as a choice over Hill…..but that’s a topic for discussion, who gives us a better chance at winning. He is not the answer, period….but to many including myself he’s better than Hill. And as far as getting someone’s rocks off, your an idiot…..

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He's just mad that people still have hope that Siemian might be serviceable. He actually probably hopes that Hill gets in and completely gets destroyed so he can tell everyone "I told you Winston was better."

Btw, he also knows WAY more about everything than you. I thought I knew who Trevor was and remember him playing for the Broncos. But alas, I must've been wrong because he said no one had even heard of the guy before he was a Saint. Only Guido knew who he was. Lol.

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I’m just concerned about the concussion affecting Taysom.