Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans

K Major · 11-15-2021, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

Surprise surprise.

The Bruce Arians way.

saintsfan1976 · 11-15-2021, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

A dumb coach would know best....

Boutte · 11-15-2021, 07:44 PM

I'm not too bummed by this loss. They hung in till the very end even while tripping over their own feet all day. Siemein is a lot better than what Iexpected too see from a 3rd stringer.

Boston Saint · 11-15-2021, 08:04 PM

I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2021, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

Any league response only comes after all games have been played and questions submitted in writing from individual teams. Today or tomorrow would be the earliest response. But all day long yesterday on NFL Radio they were crucifying the officials over the blown roughing call. That's what I love about that channel. They have no direct affiliation with the NFL other than the subject they cover. The station is owned by Liberty Media Corp. which owns Sirius XM. All show hosts are employees of the company and do not kowtow to the league. Most guests are beat writers who hold no punches.

Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2021, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

Ignore it and it will go away. That's the NFL way.

Boutte · 11-15-2021, 08:13 PM

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

neugey · 11-15-2021, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

In the NBA all flagrant fouls are reviewed to determine body positionings, force, intent and impact point. In college they review the targeting calls. So it's wrong to expect NFL refs to be able to determine these variables at full speed. It's obvious that in NFL that all personal fouls should be reviewable. It won't correct every gaffe, but should allow them to get 80+% of the blown calls fixed. Could it make some games a bit longer? Yes, but better that than have the credibility of the sport in constant jeopardy.

Boston Saint · 11-15-2021, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

Probably not. I believe the league did say something about mistakes made during the Chicago/Pitt game. Interested to see if they do here.

RailBoss · 11-16-2021, 10:54 PM

What goes around comes around..

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11-15-2021, 07:35 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by RailBoss What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington Surprise surprise. The Bruce Arians way. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

11-15-2021, 07:37 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by RailBoss What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington A dumb coach would know best.... neugey, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-15-2021, 07:44 PM	#3
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans I'm not too bummed by this loss. They hung in till the very end even while tripping over their own feet all day. Siemein is a lot better than what Iexpected too see from a 3rd stringer. neugey likes this.

11-15-2021, 08:04 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

11-16-2021, 10:05 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boston Saint I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious. Any league response only comes after all games have been played and questions submitted in writing from individual teams. Today or tomorrow would be the earliest response. But all day long yesterday on NFL Radio they were crucifying the officials over the blown roughing call. That's what I love about that channel. They have no direct affiliation with the NFL other than the subject they cover. The station is owned by Liberty Media Corp. which owns Sirius XM. All show hosts are employees of the company and do not kowtow to the league. Most guests are beat writers who hold no punches.
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11-16-2021, 03:01 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boston Saint I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious. Ignore it and it will go away. That's the NFL way. RailBoss and SmashMouth like this.

11-15-2021, 08:13 PM	#7
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-15-2021, 09:33 PM	#8
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boutte They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. In the NBA all flagrant fouls are reviewed to determine body positionings, force, intent and impact point. In college they review the targeting calls. So it's wrong to expect NFL refs to be able to determine these variables at full speed. It's obvious that in NFL that all personal fouls should be reviewable. It won't correct every gaffe, but should allow them to get 80+% of the blown calls fixed. Could it make some games a bit longer? Yes, but better that than have the credibility of the sport in constant jeopardy. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-15-2021, 09:50 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boutte They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. Probably not. I believe the league did say something about mistakes made during the Chicago/Pitt game. Interested to see if they do here.