Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out?

jnormand · 12-09-2021, 02:51 PM

Saintfan, why are you self censoring calling someone Little John....ooooooh wait....now I get it.

Boston Saint · 12-09-2021, 04:18 PM

The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

saintfan · 12-09-2021, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

Sometimes I think this 'dude' really IS my ex-wife. If not, he is the second-most-

person I have ever known.

Everybody wants the team to succeed. This thread is deliberately divisive. This thread was created by someone who wants (needs) to argue to feed his ego. Little

needs a therapist.

BakoSaint · 12-09-2021, 10:58 PM

Both options are better than any of our receivers.

Boston Saint · 12-10-2021, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Both options are better than any of our receivers.

Did you notice the catches made in the game tonight? Imagine if the Saints had some of that this year.

xan · 12-15-2021, 11:44 AM

The draft is a crapshoot, so tanking doesn't really mean that the quality of the roster will improve with a marginal gain in draft order. It definitely means that the cap would be tighter, given that contract values are absolutely correlated to draft order. I voted for tank, not because of draft order, but because we need to develop talent on the roster, and to spare unnecessary injury to valuable starters. But if we win, I'm not going to complain. Still going to watch the game and jump from side-to-side on every play.

vpheughan · 12-15-2021, 12:49 PM

Narcissistic personality disorder:
Symptoms include an excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, an inability to handle any criticism, and a sense of entitlement.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 09:19 AM

Amen, again.

stickman · 12-20-2021, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Amen, again.

https://twitter.com/SaintsForecast/s...46261090652164

Amen indeed.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 02:29 PM

Not only do the Saints still have a shot at the playoffs, they also still have a shot at the NFC South title and a home playoff game. With the sweep of the Bucs they now have the tiebreaker over the Tampa team. Both teams can still finish with identical 10-7 records.

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12-09-2021, 02:51 PM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,768	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Saintfan, why are you self censoring calling someone Little John....ooooooh wait....now I get it.

12-09-2021, 04:18 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

12-09-2021, 05:30 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by Boston Saint The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario. Sometimes I think this 'dude' really IS my ex-wife. If not, he is the second-most- person I have ever known. Everybody wants the team to succeed. This thread is deliberately divisive. This thread was created by someone who wants (needs) to argue to feed his ego. Little needs a therapist. K Major likes this.

12-09-2021, 10:58 PM	#4
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12-10-2021, 12:04 AM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by BakoSaint Both options are better than any of our receivers. Did you notice the catches made in the game tonight? Imagine if the Saints had some of that this year.

12-15-2021, 11:44 AM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? The draft is a crapshoot, so tanking doesn't really mean that the quality of the roster will improve with a marginal gain in draft order. It definitely means that the cap would be tighter, given that contract values are absolutely correlated to draft order. I voted for tank, not because of draft order, but because we need to develop talent on the roster, and to spare unnecessary injury to valuable starters. But if we win, I'm not going to complain. Still going to watch the game and jump from side-to-side on every play. iceshack149 likes this.

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12-20-2021, 09:19 AM	#8
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12-20-2021, 09:48 AM	#9
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,804	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Amen, again. https://twitter.com/SaintsForecast/s...46261090652164 Amen indeed. AsylumGuido likes this.

12-20-2021, 02:29 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Not only do the Saints still have a shot at the playoffs, they also still have a shot at the NFC South title and a home playoff game. With the sweep of the Bucs they now have the tiebreaker over the Tampa team. Both teams can still finish with identical 10-7 records.