Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out?

AsylumGuido · 12-09-2021, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You did little . You replied directly to my post and argued the point with me did you not?

Go back and look at post #30 (your post), where you argue against...yourself. Argue with someone who actually says the things you make up in your mind so you can fight with people and feed your warped ego you little .

Stop replying to my posts in an argumentative way and I'll stop making you look stupid. Block me so you're no longer tempted. How'd that be little ?

Feel free to call me all the names you want if it makes you feel better, saintsfan.

As to post #30, it had nothing to do with what your wishes were for the outcome of our games. You go back and read it. I simply referred to the "situation" we were in that you referenced. Then I made a generalization of how some people wish for for us to lose games. There was absolutely nothing argumentative about the post. I repeat, if someone wishes for our team to lose their games that is their prerogative. And I repeat I don't understand that, but it's just the way they feel.

You have a nice day!

Boston Saint · 12-09-2021, 04:18 PM

The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

saintfan · 12-09-2021, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

Sometimes I think this 'dude' really IS my ex-wife. If not, he is the second-most-

person I have ever known.

Everybody wants the team to succeed. This thread is deliberately divisive. This thread was created by someone who wants (needs) to argue to feed his ego. Little

needs a therapist.

BakoSaint · 12-09-2021, 10:58 PM

Both options are better than any of our receivers.

Boston Saint · 12-10-2021, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Both options are better than any of our receivers.

Did you notice the catches made in the game tonight? Imagine if the Saints had some of that this year.

saintsfan1976 · 12-14-2021, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Also, quitters don't win.

also don't quit winning

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2021, 10:53 AM

As things currently stand we have better odds (26%) of making the playoffs than getting a top five pick (less than 1%).

With our win over the Bucs this weekend those playoff odds should climb even more!

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2021, 11:06 AM

Amen.

xan · 12-15-2021, 11:44 AM

The draft is a crapshoot, so tanking doesn't really mean that the quality of the roster will improve with a marginal gain in draft order. It definitely means that the cap would be tighter, given that contract values are absolutely correlated to draft order. I voted for tank, not because of draft order, but because we need to develop talent on the roster, and to spare unnecessary injury to valuable starters. But if we win, I'm not going to complain. Still going to watch the game and jump from side-to-side on every play.

vpheughan · 12-15-2021, 12:49 PM

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12-09-2021, 04:04 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by saintfan You did little . You replied directly to my post and argued the point with me did you not? Go back and look at post #30 (your post), where you argue against...yourself. Argue with someone who actually says the things you make up in your mind so you can fight with people and feed your warped ego you little . Stop replying to my posts in an argumentative way and I'll stop making you look stupid. Block me so you're no longer tempted. How'd that be little ? Feel free to call me all the names you want if it makes you feel better, saintsfan. As to post #30, it had nothing to do with what your wishes were for the outcome of our games. You go back and read it. I simply referred to the "situation" we were in that you referenced. Then I made a generalization of how some people wish for for us to lose games. There was absolutely nothing argumentative about the post. I repeat, if someone wishes for our team to lose their games that is their prerogative. And I repeat I don't understand that, but it's just the way they feel. You have a nice day!
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12-09-2021, 04:18 PM	#42
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario.

12-09-2021, 05:30 PM	#43
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by Boston Saint The thing is a question is posed in the form of would you suffer through bad outcome A or bad outcome B. Then, when someone makes a choice, the point is switched to frame it as the person is hoping for that bad outcome. It’s the old “do you still beat your wife” scenario. Sometimes I think this 'dude' really IS my ex-wife. If not, he is the second-most- person I have ever known. Everybody wants the team to succeed. This thread is deliberately divisive. This thread was created by someone who wants (needs) to argue to feed his ego. Little needs a therapist. K Major likes this.

12-09-2021, 10:58 PM	#44
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12-10-2021, 12:04 AM	#45
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by BakoSaint Both options are better than any of our receivers. Did you notice the catches made in the game tonight? Imagine if the Saints had some of that this year.

12-14-2021, 02:11 PM	#46
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Also, quitters don't win. also don't quit winning

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? As things currently stand we have better odds (26%) of making the playoffs than getting a top five pick (less than 1%). With our win over the Bucs this weekend those playoff odds should climb even more!

12-15-2021, 11:06 AM	#48
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