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turbo_dog 02-07-2022 10:04 AM
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Who do you think makes the final decision on the hire? Loomis alone? Loomis and Mrs. Benson?

Boston Saint 02-07-2022 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 944133)
Who do you think makes the final decision on the hire? Loomis alone? Loomis and Mrs. Benson?
Final? Mrs B is my guess. Jeff Ireland, she and Micky all talk,
but she makes the call I guess.

AsylumGuido 02-07-2022 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 944133)
Who do you think makes the final decision on the hire? Loomis alone? Loomis and Mrs. Benson?
I'd say the only three with the real decision making would be Loomis, Lauscha, and Benson. The owner has to have the final say, however.

saintsfan1976 02-07-2022 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 944108)
I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.
I'm down with this. But let's not forget our differing perspectives ARE what make this a great place to live. We may not agree on everything but we can learn from each other!

Rell&Gold 02-07-2022 12:28 PM
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That’s kind of the point though. I remember when there were no black QBs. That is not the case now and being black won’t hold a QB back at all now if he can play. That happened naturally through acceptance, not because the league tried to force black QBs onto teams through rules the way they are doing now and have been since the Rooney rule. In this case the coach is complaining because a team asked him in to meet a requirement. It sounds like he was fired in Miami for not tanking games rather than his race. Why would he have been hired in Miami at all if the organization is racist?
The league hasn't accepted the fact that Black Coaches can coach? or they haven't accepted the fact like just like the sport Coaching would be majority persons of color if/once "It's Accepted" THATS RACISM in a nutshell. We know they can but can't accept what comes with that "A MAJORITY BLACK NFL PLAYERS AND COACHES"

Boston Saint 02-07-2022 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 944156)
The league hasn't accepted the fact that Black Coaches can coach? or they haven't accepted the fact like just like the sport Coaching would be majority persons of color if/once "It's Accepted" THATS RACISM in a nutshell. We know they can but can't accept what comes with that "A MAJORITY BLACK NFL PLAYERS AND COACHES"
Sorry, I don’t understand what you are saying.

rezburna 02-07-2022 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 944163)
Sorry, I don’t understand what you are saying.
He’s saying the league is afraid that if they accept the fact that Black coaches are equally yoked to be head coaches and are provided the opportunity without any bias whatsoever the coaching numbers would become just as lopsided as the player make up. He’s basically saying the majority of coaches would be Black and the NFL isn’t willing to let that happen, which he says is racism in a nutshell. “We will make concessions to your community but we will never truly empower your community in such a manner that threatens the status quo.”

Hope that helps.

jnormand 02-07-2022 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 944163)
Sorry, I don’t understand what you are saying.
He's saying that the league is racist and they don't want black coaches because most of the coaches would be black and the league doesn't want that.

Or something....

halloween 65 02-07-2022 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 944108)
I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.
It's all good Rez.


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