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SaintGnome 02-04-2022 08:18 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 943784)
Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.
he does?

Budsdrinker 02-04-2022 08:19 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 943784)
Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.
Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank
offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan.

AsylumGuido 02-04-2022 08:25 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 943784)
Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.
Yup. Pretty much the same duties, although Bieniemy may have more a role in the actual game planning than Carmichael has had in the past. Both are involved, but from what I have read Bieniemy has more of a lead in that aspect. Of course, with both Payton and Brees gone it may all be on Carmichael ... if he stays.

AsylumGuido 02-04-2022 08:27 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 943787)
Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank
offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan.
If Allen gets the job we might see him with the same degree of involvement in the defense as what Payton had with the offense.

AsylumGuido 02-04-2022 08:46 AM
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rezburna 02-04-2022 08:57 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 943783)
So Bienemy has been at KC under Andy Reid, has Mahomes, Hill, Kielce and Edwards Helaire to name a few and Reid calls the plays. So how would exactly he be a fit for the Saints?
Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling?

AsylumGuido 02-04-2022 09:29 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 943796)
Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling?

Payton did have playcalling duties with the Giants for awhile, but he was stripped of those duties in October 2002.

Oct 31, 2002 — Come Sunday night, Payton will be on the sideline at Giants Stadium, stripped of the play-calling duties that define his role with the team.

He seemed to pick it up later to a decent degree. :D

K Major 02-04-2022 10:29 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 943773)
Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.

Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.

FinSaint 02-04-2022 11:14 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 943810)
Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.



Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.
A much better hire for a HC than Leftwich would've been IMO.

iceshack149 02-04-2022 11:44 AM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 943810)
Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.

Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.
I wouldn't have been upset if the Saints brought in Pederson. Now I'm pretty much all in on Dennis Allen.


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