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Eric Bieniemy to bring back the high powered offense. Maybe he turn our Hill into a version of KC'S Hill? :)

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I'm not following you on how paying salaries correlates to leadership in the NFL. Or diversity. Or equity. Maybe I'm just missing the point but I respect your view.

There's one black HC today yes. But there were three last season. This season, nine HCs were fired. Six jobs have been filled (with white men) but if you read about the connections and reasoning, it's hard to surmise race a factor: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-coach-h...versity-issues

Also worth noting from that article: Two more Black general managers were hired in Chicago (Ryan Poles) and Minnesota (Kwesi Adofo-Mensah), bringing the total to seven Black GMs (the most since 2016), important diversity in the job that usually advises owners most closely on football matters. Those were all, inarguably, positive developments.

I can appreciate that race wasn't created by black people. And although it does, as you say "permeate every facet of society" - it shouldn't. And it only does because we allow it to. We allow ourselves to be divided on superficial lines and in fact we allow certain figures to promote a sort of "anti hate" that is many ways bent on forcefully over-correcting society through aggressive means that only furthers the divide among us.

And lastly, if a black CEO can change the healthcare system to work for all of us instead of preying on us for profits then I hope every seat in America is filled by one. But in reality, it'll only be for show.

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This is what a rational, logical debate between two people with respect for each others' opinion looks like.

Feel free to make post #1646 about something more substantive yourself.

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Byron Leftwich is I think a good example of all the intricacies involved when determining how a coach will fit with the totality of an NFL organization.

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Agreed. People have to stop being so uncomfortable talking about racial issues. This country was founded on racial issues. This is 400 years of culture. This is embedded into the very fabric of American society. It’s pretty arrogant to assume we’d have worked through all that in 50 years.

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The core of the conversation is that in order to really effect change you have to be in control. You have to be a decision maker. You have to be in important positions with influence and power on your side. Race shouldn’t permeate every facet of society but it does, so as the demographic that sits on the bottom of the socioeconomic totem pole we aren’t in any real position to say that we aren’t going to go along with the rules of the game.

We’re in a capitalistic society and we desire the capital and positions of power that would allow us to give ourselves equality and equity instead of always having to beg for it from White America. Many Black people think money can allow them to subvert racism but that’s not true, that can only be done at a macro level with large segments of the group rising to power and handling that power equitably amongst our community.

Now again, I go back to agreeing with the fact that these owners can do what they want with their teams. At the end of the day if the Black players and coaches truly wanted to take a stand they could all break away from the NFL and partner up with the 7 Black billionaires in America to start their own league. They could even go to the XFL and make sure that those teams have the desired level of African American influence to reflect the population of the players.

But that’s the honorable Malcolm X talk, and most of our community still has similar to hopes to the honorable Dr. Martin Luther King. So for somebody like me viewing the situation, the NFL owners and corporations all across America should really be grateful that the Black community is still so hopeful.

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Wrong. This country was founded on Freedom not racial. Discrimiation has been in every country since man's greed for power and will continue because there is (always) some greedy bastard out there. Wars over land, gold, oil, diamonds or whatever a greedy person with enough of an army could take from another that was conquered has paid the price enslaving those that were conquered. As far as slavery goes all races, black, white, yellow have endured throughout time. It's just how things have been and to think that it will ever stop is not thinking clearly, still goes on today. Trying to sell it over and over makes it worst, which many do for money and power alone without (true) regret over any race. I've never owned a person(slave of any race) and don't know of anyone that has or ever will and to be put into position to keep on hearing about it time after time after time leaves a bad taste in many peoples mouth along with mine. So if it's equality (anyone) seeks, not gonna happen, nothing is ever equal.

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You’ve got good points rez, But every civilization/ country was founded along racial issues in some way. Ancient Egypt enslaved Jews. Japanese and Chinese cultures have always had strife of wars and slavery. So has the middle east. Ancient African, South, Central and North American peoples routinely fought and enslaved each other. It’s not a unique thing so deeply embedded here as you think. This is the only country to fight an internal civil war to stop slavery. It by far is the country in the world with the most variety of races and cultures living peacefully under one flag. I had a good friend I worked with from Ethiopia who won a lottery to be able to leave his country and move here. He told me once he cries when he hears people talk about how racist this country is because “people here have no f***ing clue what real racism and oppression is”. The stories he told me about living and escaping life there turned my stomach. People from around the world risk their lives to come here. How can it be a monstrously racist place if that is so?

I think too much is made of the evils of the past and tearing the country down rather than celebrate, appreciate, and build off of the progress America has made. The NFL has made more black millionaires than any other business in the history of the world. If the league is racist it Doesn’t sound like they are doing a very good job.

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This pretty much says it all for me.

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A country can’t be founded on freedom when there was entire group of people enslaved based on race and race alone. Racism predates the country and is a building block of the nation. To try to paint it in any other light is disingenuous and leaves a bad taste in the mouths of 42 million African American people living in this nation. I really can’t understand how the “I never owned a slave” thing is still a talking point. Nobody said you did. I didn’t even imply somebody in your ancestry did, but that doesn’t negate the fact that a socioeconomic hierarchy built on race was created before this nation even declared for independence. If you can’t even admit the truth about what the country was really founded on then it truly is no hope for the future of America.