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lee909 01-25-2022 01:51 PM

Head Coach Search
 
So do you continue with the in house team or start searching outside?

Going to be a big offseason, cant see the big tradable QB looking to come in without Payton at the helm. For me i would be looking outside for a fresh coach with new ideas who can build the team he wants, not trying to carry on with the same plan with a difference voice. Or if you want to go down the Dennis Allen route would you just change things up at OC

Who would the forum look at as possible replacements

papz 01-25-2022 01:57 PM

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The turd bucket got Taysom Hill a contract extension and ducked the hell out. I'm getting pretty pissed thinking about this.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...om-hill-22021/

I'm fine with promoting within.

SaintGnome 01-25-2022 02:01 PM

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If I have my way DA is the answer and we keep the rest of Sean's staff.

Rsanders24 01-25-2022 02:02 PM

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Depends…Is he done with the Saints or just taking a year off? I think that’s the deciding factor.

I’m pissed that he was good with giving Taysom that contract then leaving. Might as well start trading/cutting players that were bad decisions. Hill, Peat, Ruiz, Jenkins, etc…

Rsanders24 01-25-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 942834)
So do you continue with the in house team or start searching outside?

Going to be a big offseason, cant see the big tradable QB looking to come in without Payton at the helm. For me i would be looking outside for a fresh coach with new ideas who can build the team he wants, not trying to carry on with the same plan with a difference voice. Or if you want to go down the Dennis Allen route would you just change things up at OC

Who would the forum look at as possible replacements

We are beyond salary cap hell. No good coach is going to want to come here so our best option is to promote from within and clear this dead weight.

halloween 65 01-25-2022 02:10 PM

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Caldwell could slowly get us out of cap hell and build a good overall team. I'm not an Allen fan. Just wonder if he bails if he doesn't get the HC job even if so there are some pretty good DC's out there.

lee909 01-25-2022 02:19 PM

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The more i think of it the more i would look to move in a fresh team.
Promote those young enough who want to be there long term.

Problem i see staying with someone like Pete Carmichael is he will likely try to stay with the same playbook he has been used to for the past 15 years and the league is rapidly changing. And we have no Brees who was the playbook. For me i would be looking for a young coach, let him build his team and stick with him. It would likely be painful for a year or two while you clear some of the highly overpayed players who won't be around but clear him cap space over the next season or two for picks and let him rebuild for the long term. I honestly think the worse thing to do would be to panic and try and hold it all together, keep the vets as a need presence etc and Clearing space by extending the like of Peat,Jenkins etc again. Again something that would likely mean some hard trades(Jordan/Thomas) etc.

K Major 01-25-2022 02:29 PM

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Bring in a young, innovative offensive mind.

Kellen Moore, Eric Bienemy, Byron Leftwich, or Bryan Daboll (Bills OC).

papz 01-25-2022 02:38 PM

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I'm good with that too. But in doing so, you likely lose the majority of the defensive staff as well.

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 02:53 PM

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Wonder if Pete Carmichael would get any consideration?

voodooido 01-25-2022 02:55 PM

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They don’t have to look any further than the defensive side of the ball.

MatthewT 01-25-2022 03:04 PM

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Looks like Dennis Allen and Aaron Glenn are the first two set up for interviews.

K Major 01-25-2022 03:13 PM

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Scratch Brian Daboll from the list ...

He's going to become the next Giants HC.

jnormand 01-25-2022 03:14 PM

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Goddamnit....

ChrisXVI 01-25-2022 03:24 PM

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I have no freaking idea. This is messed up.

jnormand 01-25-2022 03:52 PM

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Welp....No Brees. No Payton. We're ****ed. Start looking at the top 5 draft in the next few seasons. We're destined for mediocrity or worse. Lol

lee909 01-25-2022 03:56 PM

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And with the first pick of the 2023 NFL Draft the New Orleans Saints select Quarterback C.J. Stroud/Bryce Young.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 942903)
And with the first pick of the 2023 NFL Draft the New Orleans Saints select Quarterback C.J. Stroud/Bryce Young.

What's it going to cost us trading all the way up from #32? :confused:

Boston Saint 01-25-2022 03:59 PM

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NOLA54 01-25-2022 04:00 PM

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I definitely want an offensive minded coach. It will take sometime to pick ourselves up off the floor. It's a rotten time for him to make this decision. I feel like he has given up because Drew retired. I truly appreciate everything he has done for the city and the team. He will go down as one of the special ones and I hope we'll find another like him.

ChrisXVI 01-25-2022 04:00 PM

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Realistically, I’m guessing Dennis Allen will be the head coach. I don’t know if Pete Carmichael sticks around to be OC.

Lord_Saint83 01-25-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 942906)
I definitely want an offensive minded coach. It will take sometime to pick ourselves up off the floor. It's a rotten time for him to make this decision. I feel like he has given up because Drew retired. I truly appreciate everything he has done for the city and the team. He will go down as one of the special ones and I hope we'll find another like him.



I posted a couple of years ago that Sean would leave right after Drew retired and I got blasted. I had a gut feeling and I hoped was wrong but now I hope we get rid of players that should of been gone long time ago. Yes, I’m talking to you Peat.

rezburna 01-25-2022 04:49 PM

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There’s no way I would hire 8-28 Dennis Allen to take over for Sean Payton. Give someone like Eric Bienemy, Kellen Moore, or Byron Leftwich a chance.

lee909 01-25-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942913)
There’s no way I would hire 8-28 Dennis Allen to take over for Sean Payton. Give someone like Eric Bienemy, Kellen Moore, or Byron Leftwich a chance.

Same
If Allen wants to walk because of that so be it. Look to keep
Nielsen and Richards on board and promote one to DC.

neugey 01-25-2022 05:08 PM

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Aren't we going to need to interview Bienemy, Leftwich, Caldwell, etc. per the Rooney rule?

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 942915)
Aren't we going to need to interview Bienemy, Leftwich, Caldwell, etc. per the Rooney rule?

Yes.

neugey 01-25-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942916)
Yes.


That's what I'm thinking too. Just couldn't remember if the Rooney rule applied to any coaching vacancy reason (in our case, resignation/retirement) or firing.

What a day. We were just recently lauding this as one of CSP's best coaching years and a dark-horse COTY candidate especially had we made the playoffs. :(

rezburna 01-25-2022 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 942915)
Aren't we going to need to interview Bienemy, Leftwich, Caldwell, etc. per the Rooney rule?

I think we gotta interview at least one of them. Has New Orleans ever had a Black head coach?

ChrisXVI 01-25-2022 05:18 PM

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I wish Ryan Nielsen had a little more NFL coaching experience. By all accounts he’s a head coach in the making but he just isn’t quite there yet.

WW_Who_Dat 01-25-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942913)
There’s no way I would hire 8-28 Dennis Allen to take over for Sean Payton. Give someone like Eric Bienemy, Kellen Moore, or Byron Leftwich a chance.

Offensive league Offensive Head Coach … Our defense is solid as a unit as whole Allen has done a respectable job. The head coach and the QB need to buy in to each other. As opposed to the defense which works as a unit with less focus on a single player. If you don’t have a QB with the it factor then you don’t have a good offense in NFL … you don’t have shot at long term success and championships.

SaintGnome 01-25-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 942905)

I knew this was coming :)

llaguardia81 01-25-2022 05:42 PM

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If we can get Brian Flores, maybe he can lure Deshawn Watson here. It's been said Flores is the only coach he'd play for.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942919)
I think we gotta interview at least one of them. Has New Orleans ever had a Black head coach?

Nope. Can't even remember a Black coordinator.

SaintGnome 01-25-2022 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 942915)
Aren't we going to need to interview Bienemy, Leftwich, Caldwell, etc. per the Rooney rule?

Uh, wouldn't Aaron Glenn satisfy the Rooney requirement?

rezburna 01-25-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942930)
Uh, wouldn't Aaron Glenn satisfy the Rooney requirement?

We’re interviewing Aaron Glenn? Why?

saintsfan1976 01-25-2022 06:11 PM

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Regardless of the perceived issues around the cap, personnel, etc. - any coach who's spoken to Sean Payton over the years has to know what a tremendous organization this us be to work for.

There should be a LONG line of quality candidates eager to coach the Saints and work with Loomis and Benson.

SaintGnome 01-25-2022 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942931)
We’re interviewing Aaron Glenn? Why?

Yeah, Glenn and Allen are first confirmed interviews. I don't know if he's ready but I assume history with as a Saints asst.

saintfan 01-25-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 942932)
Regardless of the perceived issues around the cap, personnel, etc. - any coach who's spoken to Sean Payton over the years has to know what a tremendous organization this us be to work for.

There should be a LONG line of quality candidates eager to coach the Saints and work with Loomis and Benson.

Great organization with some serious questions regarding the roster that need to be answered, and some significant holes on that side of the ball, not the least of which is QB. Gonna be an interesting off season..

:popcorn:

Boston Saint 01-25-2022 06:29 PM

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So, Payton can’t coach another team until/unless the Saints give permission while he is under contract, correct?

lee909 01-25-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 942936)
So, Payton can’t coach another team until/unless the Saints give permission while he is under contract, correct?

Think so,until 2024 at least


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