Head Coach Search

The Dude · 01-26-2022, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Big question in my mind, is the Chiefs' success him, Andy Reid, or Mahomes and his boys?

Reed has a winning history. I think it’s more him and Mahommes than anything else.

AsylumGuido · 01-26-2022, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Big question in my mind, is the Chiefs' success him, Andy Reid, or Mahomes and his boys?

That's my main question on Bieniemy, and Leftwich, too. And I suppose Carmichael falls in that same boat.

jnormand · 01-26-2022, 04:53 PM

Bieniemy is piece of trash. He's the type of coach that, if left in charge, will let the locker room destroy itself. Just my opinion. I'd rather not have him coaching the Saints. Him being a member of the Saints in any capacity would be ironic.

The Dude · 01-26-2022, 04:54 PM

I really don’t think we have much of a choice. Coaches won’t exactly be lining up at the door given our cap and Qb situation.
If you are trying to get your first chance as a HC you want to go with a team that’s trending up instead of one that’s just…trending. This is going to be a tough place to succeed for a while. I think DA is probably the safest bet right now. We can finally make a push for Gruden, or Urban Mayer for that matter.
Wonder what the draft is going to look like now.

The Dude · 01-26-2022, 11:20 PM

Me thinks there’s about to be a major coaching exodus from New Orleans. We are screwed any way you cut it.

saintsfan1976 · 01-27-2022, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Me thinks there’s about to be a major coaching exodus from New Orleans. We are screwed any way you cut it.

If the organization wasn't as sound and supportive, I may agree with you

The Dude · 01-27-2022, 04:10 AM

Jim Harbaugh?

TheOak · 01-27-2022, 07:57 AM

Some items to consider..

- If the organization does not have a succession plan in place for Sean Payton's replacement, Loomis should be gone.

- If the organization did not know this was coming, Loomis should be gone. Surprises at this level only happen when there is a breakdown in relation ships and there being a breakdown in relation ships should have been a red flag to Loomis to get his ducks in order.

- New coaches from outside tend to being in 'their people', and that has the potential of changing our defense which is in a very good place right now.

- Sean should be considered done, and gone. Never to return again as that statement from him just broke the confidence of every player on that team. His replacement should be brought in ASAP to begin the transitions.

As far as the offense is concerned no changes would make it less consistent, clean the house. Many probably loved Sean and will start looking anyway just like Sean loved Drew and once Drew was gone so was his love of going to work each day.

AsylumGuido · 01-27-2022, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Some items to consider..

- If the organization does not have a succession plan in place for Sean Payton's replacement, Loomis should be gone.

- If the organization did not know this was coming, Loomis should be gone. Surprises at this level only happen when there is a breakdown in relation ships and there being a breakdown in relation ships should have been a red flag to Loomis to get his ducks in order.

- New coaches from outside tend to being in 'their people', and that has the potential of changing our defense which is in a very good place right now.

- Sean should be considered done, and gone. Never to return again as that statement from him just broke the confidence of every player on that team. His replacement should be brought in ASAP to begin the transitions.

As far as the offense is concerned no changes would make it less consistent, clean the house. Many probably loved Sean and will start looking anyway just like Sean loved Drew and once Drew was gone so was his love of going to work each day.

According to an interview with Jay Glazer yesterday, he said he saw it coming last summer. He said Sean just seemed tired. He said he talks with Payton almost daily and he said down the stretch this was a known possibility. Loomis and Gayle were aware. I think Payton is too much of a stickler for details to not have discussed contingencies with Loomis. He had already made the decision to leave, but Gayle talked him into taking a couple more days after the season was over to decide for sure. Glazer, laughing, said Payton then disappeared to Cabo with Skylene for two weeks. He said he talked to Payton several times during those two weeks but he was always so drunk he made very little sense. LOL! He said Payton was positive about the decision when he returned.

He basically indicated what you said, Oak, about Payton being done and gone.

AsylumGuido · 01-27-2022, 10:14 AM

There goes one of the possible landing spots for Dennis Allen. Perhaps their expectations was Allen remaining with the Saints.

01-26-2022, 04:56 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by jeanpierre Big question in my mind, is the Chiefs' success him, Andy Reid, or Mahomes and his boys? Reed has a winning history. I think it’s more him and Mahommes than anything else. jnormand and Thirty3 like this.
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01-26-2022, 05:01 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by jeanpierre Big question in my mind, is the Chiefs' success him, Andy Reid, or Mahomes and his boys? That's my main question on Bieniemy, and Leftwich, too. And I suppose Carmichael falls in that same boat.

01-26-2022, 04:53 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: Head Coach Search Bieniemy is piece of trash. He's the type of coach that, if left in charge, will let the locker room destroy itself. Just my opinion. I'd rather not have him coaching the Saints. Him being a member of the Saints in any capacity would be ironic.

01-26-2022, 04:54 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Head Coach Search I really don’t think we have much of a choice. Coaches won’t exactly be lining up at the door given our cap and Qb situation. If you are trying to get your first chance as a HC you want to go with a team that’s trending up instead of one that’s just…trending. This is going to be a tough place to succeed for a while. I think DA is probably the safest bet right now. We can finally make a push for Gruden, or Urban Mayer for that matter. Wonder what the draft is going to look like now.
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01-26-2022, 11:20 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Head Coach Search Me thinks there’s about to be a major coaching exodus from New Orleans. We are screwed any way you cut it.
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01-27-2022, 11:36 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by The Dude Me thinks there’s about to be a major coaching exodus from New Orleans. We are screwed any way you cut it. If the organization wasn't as sound and supportive, I may agree with you Rugby Saint II, FinSaint and bobdog86 like this.

01-27-2022, 04:10 AM	#7
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01-27-2022, 07:57 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Head Coach Search Some items to consider.. - If the organization does not have a succession plan in place for Sean Payton's replacement, Loomis should be gone. - If the organization did not know this was coming, Loomis should be gone. Surprises at this level only happen when there is a breakdown in relation ships and there being a breakdown in relation ships should have been a red flag to Loomis to get his ducks in order. - New coaches from outside tend to being in 'their people', and that has the potential of changing our defense which is in a very good place right now. - Sean should be considered done, and gone. Never to return again as that statement from him just broke the confidence of every player on that team. His replacement should be brought in ASAP to begin the transitions. As far as the offense is concerned no changes would make it less consistent, clean the house. Many probably loved Sean and will start looking anyway just like Sean loved Drew and once Drew was gone so was his love of going to work each day. jnormand, AsylumGuido, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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01-27-2022, 08:33 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by TheOak Some items to consider.. - If the organization does not have a succession plan in place for Sean Payton's replacement, Loomis should be gone. - If the organization did not know this was coming, Loomis should be gone. Surprises at this level only happen when there is a breakdown in relation ships and there being a breakdown in relation ships should have been a red flag to Loomis to get his ducks in order. - New coaches from outside tend to being in 'their people', and that has the potential of changing our defense which is in a very good place right now. - Sean should be considered done, and gone. Never to return again as that statement from him just broke the confidence of every player on that team. His replacement should be brought in ASAP to begin the transitions. As far as the offense is concerned no changes would make it less consistent, clean the house. Many probably loved Sean and will start looking anyway just like Sean loved Drew and once Drew was gone so was his love of going to work each day. According to an interview with Jay Glazer yesterday, he said he saw it coming last summer. He said Sean just seemed tired. He said he talks with Payton almost daily and he said down the stretch this was a known possibility. Loomis and Gayle were aware. I think Payton is too much of a stickler for details to not have discussed contingencies with Loomis. He had already made the decision to leave, but Gayle talked him into taking a couple more days after the season was over to decide for sure. Glazer, laughing, said Payton then disappeared to Cabo with Skylene for two weeks. He said he talked to Payton several times during those two weeks but he was always so drunk he made very little sense. LOL! He said Payton was positive about the decision when he returned. He basically indicated what you said, Oak, about Payton being done and gone. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-27-2022, 10:14 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Head Coach Search There goes one of the possible landing spots for Dennis Allen. Perhaps their expectations was Allen remaining with the Saints. Twitter

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