Possible Michael Thomas Trade?

turbo_dog · 01-28-2022, 08:56 PM

Not a whole lot of substance, but an interesting theory.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/saints-...124505102.html

Not only is New Orleans $74 million over the salary cap with no clear-cut starting quarterback, but the team also just lost head coach Sean Payton, who resigned on Tuesday. With so much uncertainty surrounding the Saints, NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah recommended teams call New Orleans to gauge trade interest in some of the team’s expensive veterans. Twelve Saints have a cap hit of at least $10 million heading into next season. The Saints will undoubtedly have to unload some of those exorbitant contracts in order to get under the cap.

The Dude · 01-28-2022, 09:20 PM

Eh, this dude is acting as if the option of restructuring players doesn’t exist. We will have some cap casualties but Thomas won’t be one of them. If he gets traded it will be for other reasons.

jeanpierre · 01-28-2022, 10:17 PM

Desperate Jets homer sports writer...

BakoSaint · 01-29-2022, 02:36 AM

The Jets should not be desperate for a receiver. Elijah Moore has 100 more yards and 1 less teammate punched than Michael Thomas over the last 2 seasons. If they dont prefer Moore to Thomas they are idiots. All the talent in the world doesnt matter now that Thomas is physically and mentally unstable.

hitta · 01-29-2022, 05:15 AM

I would do everything I could to try getting Bryce Young some how. That process starts now I think. I'd start accumulating draft picks via trades and package them into better picks... trade those off and try to get the top pick next year. I think it is doable. Bryce Young is going to be special. He is Russell Wilson 2.0. I think he's going to have everything RW has but better. I also think BY is more calm and clutch.

I'm sure MT's market value is at the highest right now because he was injured though. Give him a good year on the field, then trade him. Tanking for Bryce I don't even think is a bad idea. It sets your franchise up for the long run. Right now we are set up to be stuck in the middle for a while, and I don't like that. We need to do something drastic to shake us out of mediocrity.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I would do everything I could to try getting Bryce Young some how. That process starts now I think. I'd start accumulating draft picks via trades and package them into better picks... trade those off and try to get the top pick next year. I think it is doable. Bryce Young is going to be special. He is Russell Wilson 2.0. I think he's going to have everything RW has but better. I also think BY is more calm and clutch.

I'm sure MT's market value is at the highest right now because he was injured though. Give him a good year on the field, then trade him. Tanking for Bryce I don't even think is a bad idea. It sets your franchise up for the long run. Right now we are set up to be stuck in the middle for a while, and I don't like that. We need to do something drastic to shake us out of mediocrity.

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

saintfan · 01-29-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

Yes mediocrity. He said "set up to be stuck in the middle", and he's not wrong. He didn't say we've been in the middle for the last half-decade. Are you stupid or do you just like to start fights...or is it both?

hitta · 01-29-2022, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8?

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

saintfan · 01-29-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift.

Poor little speedo and his ego.

01-28-2022, 08:56 PM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,635	Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Not a whole lot of substance, but an interesting theory. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/saints-...124505102.html Not only is New Orleans $74 million over the salary cap with no clear-cut starting quarterback, but the team also just lost head coach Sean Payton, who resigned on Tuesday. With so much uncertainty surrounding the Saints, NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah recommended teams call New Orleans to gauge trade interest in some of the team’s expensive veterans. Twelve Saints have a cap hit of at least $10 million heading into next season. The Saints will undoubtedly have to unload some of those exorbitant contracts in order to get under the cap.

01-28-2022, 09:20 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Eh, this dude is acting as if the option of restructuring players doesn’t exist. We will have some cap casualties but Thomas won’t be one of them. If he gets traded it will be for other reasons. jnormand and neugey like this.
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01-28-2022, 10:17 PM	#3
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01-29-2022, 02:36 AM	#4
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01-29-2022, 05:15 AM	#5
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? I would do everything I could to try getting Bryce Young some how. That process starts now I think. I'd start accumulating draft picks via trades and package them into better picks... trade those off and try to get the top pick next year. I think it is doable. Bryce Young is going to be special. He is Russell Wilson 2.0. I think he's going to have everything RW has but better. I also think BY is more calm and clutch. I'm sure MT's market value is at the highest right now because he was injured though. Give him a good year on the field, then trade him. Tanking for Bryce I don't even think is a bad idea. It sets your franchise up for the long run. Right now we are set up to be stuck in the middle for a while, and I don't like that. We need to do something drastic to shake us out of mediocrity. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.
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01-29-2022, 09:48 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by hitta I would do everything I could to try getting Bryce Young some how. That process starts now I think. I'd start accumulating draft picks via trades and package them into better picks... trade those off and try to get the top pick next year. I think it is doable. Bryce Young is going to be special. He is Russell Wilson 2.0. I think he's going to have everything RW has but better. I also think BY is more calm and clutch. I'm sure MT's market value is at the highest right now because he was injured though. Give him a good year on the field, then trade him. Tanking for Bryce I don't even think is a bad idea. It sets your franchise up for the long run. Right now we are set up to be stuck in the middle for a while, and I don't like that. We need to do something drastic to shake us out of mediocrity. Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? FinSaint and Rell&Gold like this.

01-29-2022, 01:30 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? Yes mediocrity. He said "set up to be stuck in the middle", and he's not wrong. He didn't say we've been in the middle for the last half-decade. Are you stupid or do you just like to start fights...or is it both?

01-29-2022, 02:10 PM	#8
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.
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01-29-2022, 02:22 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by hitta 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! rezburna likes this.
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01-29-2022, 03:00 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift. Poor little speedo and his ego.