Possible Michael Thomas Trade?

rezburna · 01-29-2022, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Michael Thomas isn't going anywhere. It is both strategically and financially foolish to think of trading him. In trading him you lose an irreplaceable commodity. He's the best in game game at what he does. Also in replacing him you take on over $22 million in dead cap over one or two years with no corresponding return on the field. It's one thing to eat dead money if a player has no more ability remaining, but it is another to have that dead cap being wasted while the player is still in his prime on another roster. This is a business. The team doesn't care what some butthurt fans might feel.

Agreed.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-29-2022, 01:13 PM

Got his boy Taysom paid though on his way out

saintfan · 01-29-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

Yes mediocrity. He said "set up to be stuck in the middle", and he's not wrong. He didn't say we've been in the middle for the last half-decade. Are you stupid or do you just like to start fights...or is it both?

WW_Who_Dat · 01-29-2022, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Thomas and Payton....buh bye.... it was fun while it lasted. NFL will be non existent soon. much like the NBA and MLB..... yawn

Yep NFL will no longer existent soon I guess you can tell that by how many people watch last Saturday and Sundays games.

Bills Chiefs - 51.7 million
Green Bay Dallas - 41 million
Los Angeles - San Fran 40 million
Cincinnati - Tennessee 30.75 million

Yep about roll up the carpet and turn out the lights 🤦*♂️

hitta · 01-29-2022, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Yep NFL will no longer existent soon I guess you can tell that by how many people watch last Saturday and Sundays games.

Bills Chiefs - 51.7 million
Green Bay Dallas - 41 million
Los Angeles - San Fran 40 million
Cincinnati - Tennessee 30.75 million

Yep about roll up the carpet and turn out the lights 🤦*♂️

Yup. Best viewing numbers in 25 years in some windows. Fastest growing sports product in the world and it's not even close.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8?

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

saintfan · 01-29-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift.

Poor little speedo and his ego.

voodooido · 01-29-2022, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Michael Thomas isn't going anywhere. It is both strategically and financially foolish to think of trading him. In trading him you lose an irreplaceable commodity. He's the best in the game at what he does. Also in replacing him you take on over $22 million in dead cap over one or two years with no corresponding return on the field. It's one thing to eat dead money if a player has no more ability remaining, but it is another to have that dead cap being wasted while the player is still in his prime on another roster. This is a business. The team doesn't care what some butthurt fans might feel.

You said the same thing about SP the day before he said he was stepping away. Forgive me for not taking your word for it.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You said the same thing about SP the day before he said he was stepping away. Forgive me for not taking your word for it.

No need to. Go for it!

01-29-2022, 10:44 AM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,657	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Michael Thomas isn't going anywhere. It is both strategically and financially foolish to think of trading him. In trading him you lose an irreplaceable commodity. He's the best in game game at what he does. Also in replacing him you take on over $22 million in dead cap over one or two years with no corresponding return on the field. It's one thing to eat dead money if a player has no more ability remaining, but it is another to have that dead cap being wasted while the player is still in his prime on another roster. This is a business. The team doesn't care what some butthurt fans might feel. Agreed. Rell&Gold likes this.

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01-29-2022, 01:30 PM	#13
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? Yes mediocrity. He said "set up to be stuck in the middle", and he's not wrong. He didn't say we've been in the middle for the last half-decade. Are you stupid or do you just like to start fights...or is it both?

01-29-2022, 01:50 PM	#14
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by mapcow Thomas and Payton....buh bye.... it was fun while it lasted. NFL will be non existent soon. much like the NBA and MLB..... yawn Yep NFL will no longer existent soon I guess you can tell that by how many people watch last Saturday and Sundays games. Bills Chiefs - 51.7 million Green Bay Dallas - 41 million Los Angeles - San Fran 40 million Cincinnati - Tennessee 30.75 million Yep about roll up the carpet and turn out the lights 🤦*♂️ AsylumGuido and rezburna like this.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,300	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.
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01-29-2022, 02:13 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Yep NFL will no longer existent soon I guess you can tell that by how many people watch last Saturday and Sundays games. Bills Chiefs - 51.7 million Green Bay Dallas - 41 million Los Angeles - San Fran 40 million Cincinnati - Tennessee 30.75 million Yep about roll up the carpet and turn out the lights 🤦*♂️ Yup. Best viewing numbers in 25 years in some windows. Fastest growing sports product in the world and it's not even close.

01-29-2022, 02:22 PM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by hitta 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! rezburna likes this.
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01-29-2022, 03:00 PM	#18
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift. Poor little speedo and his ego.

01-29-2022, 03:19 PM	#19
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,744	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Michael Thomas isn't going anywhere. It is both strategically and financially foolish to think of trading him. In trading him you lose an irreplaceable commodity. He's the best in the game at what he does. Also in replacing him you take on over $22 million in dead cap over one or two years with no corresponding return on the field. It's one thing to eat dead money if a player has no more ability remaining, but it is another to have that dead cap being wasted while the player is still in his prime on another roster. This is a business. The team doesn't care what some butthurt fans might feel. You said the same thing about SP the day before he said he was stepping away. Forgive me for not taking your word for it. saintfan, jnormand, mapcow and 1 others like this.
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01-29-2022, 03:21 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by voodooido You said the same thing about SP the day before he said he was stepping away. Forgive me for not taking your word for it. No need to. Go for it!